ShuHua Drama (2 Viewers)

[gr4vesilk]

What do you think about Yeh ShuHua's current scandal/ drama about her Behavior/ disrespectful attitude?

I think yes, the way she is behaving in some situations is bad/ disrespectful. There are some things that can be fixed instead of praising her for be a "baddie" when it's just straight up rude.

 

[Magician]

Haven't heard about any scandal

 

[gr4vesilk]

Haven't heard about any scandal

There's a lot of youtube, some news outlets I'll provide a link

 

[gr4vesilk]

Haven't heard about any scandal

https://www.allkpop.com/article/202...her-rude-attitude-in-the-mmtg-interview-video

VIDEO: (G)I-DLE SHUHUA Gets Slammed for Her Rude Attitude on a YouTube Show

SHUHUA of K-pop girl group (G)I-DLE is facing a lot of criticism for being rude on a YouTube show.

sbsstar.net

 

[StirFriedPanda]

What do you think about Yeh ShuHua's current scandal/ drama about her Behavior/ disrespectful attitude?

I think yes, the way she is behaving in some situations is bad/ disrespectful. There are some things that can be fixed instead of praising her for be a "baddie" when it's just straight up rude.

Imagine that, a girl in a sorta pro feminist group refuses to do something she's not comfortable with.... I think she's awesome for standing her ground. I used to not like her but started liking her when she started standing her ground and giving her opinion on things. And I honestly don't think anyone is actually slamming her. All the articles say she is but when you read the comments not a single agree's with said articles. Those articles are literally making shit up. People with no lives, no real writing skill and no real stories making shit up... imagine that.

 

[gr4vesilk]

Imagine that, a girl in a sorta pro feminist group refuses to do something she's not comfortable with.... I think she's awesome for standing her ground. I used to not like her but started liking her when she started standing her ground and giving her opinion on things. And I honestly don't think anyone is actually slamming her. All the articles say she is but when you read the comments not a single agree's with said articles. Those articles are literally making shit up. People with no lives, no real writing skill and no real stories making shit up... imagine that.

Have you truly ready the comments, i saw countless comments saying that people need to stop giving the foreigner excuse and saying that her behavior could have been fixed, it's not just that one interview in my opinion some of her behavior that is described as Savage is downright rude. I agree that it's good she stuck up for herself and denied doing the expressions for the Movie, the thing people are focusing on is her the entire interview not using Banmal( informal, or talking down) This was received to what I have read as disrespectful

 

[StirFriedPanda]

Have you truly ready the comments, i saw countless comments saying that people need to stop giving the foreigner excuse and saying that her behavior could have been fixed, it's not just that one interview in my opinion some of her behavior that is described as Savage is downright rude. I agree that it's good she stuck up for herself and denied doing the expressions for the Movie, the thing people are focusing on is her the entire interview not using Banmal( informal, or talking down) This was received to what I have read as disrespectful

Yes, I read comments one two different youtube shorts on this situation this morning.


Can't find the other short because I'm not going back that far in my history. Also, linking an article from AKP is like linking a picture of used Toilet paper. The other article you linked didn't have comments.

 

[gr4vesilk]

Imagine that, a girl in a sorta pro feminist group refuses to do something she's not comfortable with.... I think she's awesome for standing her ground. I used to not like her but started liking her when she started standing her ground and giving her opinion on things. And I honestly don't think anyone is actually slamming her. All the articles say she is but when you read the comments not a single agree's with said articles. Those articles are literally making shit up. People with no lives, no real writing skill and no real stories making shit up... imagine that.

 

[gr4vesilk]

Yes, I read comments one two different youtube shorts on this situation this morning.


Can't find the other short because I'm not going back that far in my history. Also, linking an article from AKP is like linking a picture of used Toilet paper. The other article you linked didn't have comments.

It said the same thing as the short, don't get me wrong i absolutely agree with her denying the request but there has been other situations on Vlive or conversations that have sparked this to become a bit bigger. Such as her not using Banmal while the other foreigner members are. I love her confidence and she has always been one of my Biases in Idle but she has also during Nxde era said things to Miyeon that came off as harsh or rude

 

[Magician]

https://www.allkpop.com/article/202...her-rude-attitude-in-the-mmtg-interview-video

VIDEO: (G)I-DLE SHUHUA Gets Slammed for Her Rude Attitude on a YouTube Show

SHUHUA of K-pop girl group (G)I-DLE is facing a lot of criticism for being rude on a YouTube show.

sbsstar.net

The only scandal is the comment section on the allkpop article, like how are some the comments even allowed?
Yeah, maybe she spoke informal in this interview but my gosh, let the girl live. Is that really a reason to get mad about a girl who spoke informal in a language you don't even understand?

 

[StirFriedPanda]

Meh, so she didn't use honorifc's. She's not a diplomat, she's not perfect, she's very much human. Only idiots think idols don't make mistakes OR have the right to say no in a less diplomatic manner when they are being asked to do something they aren't comfortable with. And here's the reality of it all. Your opinion, my opinion and the opinion of the person who made that comment don't matter, never will, and should never matter. We weren't there to know the full story, what happened before the camera's were rolling or after. Buying or not buying CD's going to concerts, or watching the edited version of that show doesn't give us the right OR ability to judge her actions. This goes back to the Everglow Yiren new years incident. This isn't about the Idol doing something wrong. It's about cry babies not getting what they wanted and ignoring that Shuhua has a say in this matter. She made her desires known and stood buy them. I respect that completely!

 

[gr4vesilk]

The only scandal is the comment section on the allkpop article, like how are some the comments even allowed?
Yeah, maybe she spoke informal in this interview but my gosh, let the girl live. Is that really a reason to get mad about a girl who spoke informal in a language you don't even understand?

I do understand Korean, My mother's side is Korean so it's very important to me and I can understand if may not seem that big but as a Korean- American Banmal especially to Idols on shows is very important. When you have lived in SK for 8 years you would expect respectful dialect

 

[StirFriedPanda]

It said the same thing as the short, don't get me wrong i absolutely agree with her denying the request but there has been other situations on Vlive or conversations that have sparked this to become a bit bigger. Such as her not using Banmal while the other foreigner members are. I love her confidence and she has always been one of my Biases in Idle but she has also during Nxde era said things to Miyeon that came off as harsh or rude

That short may say there's drama, but when you read the comments of that short, they do not back up the claim of drama.

 

[gr4vesilk]

Meh, so she didn't use honorifc's. She's not a diplomat, she's not perfect, she's very much human. Only idiots think idols don't make mistakes OR have the right to say no in a less diplomatic manner when they are being asked to do something they aren't comfortable with. And here's the reality of it all. Your opinion, my opinion and the opinion of the person who made that comment don't matter, never will, and should never matter. We weren't there to know the full story, what happened before the camera's were rolling or after. Buying or not buying CD's going to concerts, or watching the edited version of that show doesn't give us the right OR ability to judge her actions. This goes back to the Everglow Yiren new years incident. This isn't about the Idol doing something wrong. It's about cry babies not getting what they wanted and ignoring that Shuhua has a say in this matter. She made her desires known and stood buy them. I respect that completely!

She didn't just not use Banmal for that part, the entire show she used informal the whole show. Like i said I completely respect Shuhua and your opinion as well.

 

[Magician]

I do understand Korean, My mother's side is Korean so it's very important to me and I can understand if may not seem that big but as a Korean- American Banmal especially to Idols on shows is very important. When you have lived in SK for 8 years you would expect respectful dialect

And what did she say that was so rude? What exactly was wrong and what should she have said instead?

 

[gr4vesilk]

And what did she say that was so rude? What exactly was wrong and what should she have said instead?

The entire interview she used informal that's what people were also getting at, not anything specific her denying the request i'm on her side but she could have the entire interview used banmal or have been more formal

 

[StirFriedPanda]

I do understand Korean, My mother's side is Korean so it's very important to me and I can understand if may not seem that big but as a Korean- American Banmal especially to Idols on shows is very important. When you have lived in SK for 8 years you would expect respectful dialect

I disagree. All humans stand on equal ground. I'm all for respecting others so far as they remain respectable. I've studied Japanese for years. They have similar rules called Kego (sp) only they are far more serious about it than Koreans. But my opinion doesn't change on the matter. If that's your culture, fine but the reality is not all culture's ideals are correct. I firmly believe in respecting my elders and those more experienced than myself. However, if in Korea, Japan OR the US someone acted like a douche (even if they are my elder or senior, I'm going to treat them like a douche. It's what they've earned.

 

[gr4vesilk]

That short may say there's drama, but when you read the comments of that short, they do not back up the claim of drama.

You are right on that, i feel as if they are focusing on the wrong thing. Her saying no i completely agree with

 

[gr4vesilk]

I disagree. All humans stand on equal ground. I'm all for respecting others so far as they remain respectable. I've studied Japanese for years. They have similar rules called Kego (sp) only they are far more serious about it than Koreans. But my opinion doesn't change on the matter. If that's your culture, fine but the reality is not all culture's ideals are correct. I firmly believe in respecting my elders and those more experienced than myself. However, if in Korea, Japan OR the US someone acted like a douche (even if they are my elder or senior, I'm going to treat them like a douche. It's what they've earned.

Throughout the show the host wasn't disrespectful in my eyes, certain moments yes could have but in Korea it doesn't quite go that way. Its respect no matter what

 

[Magician]

The entire interview she used informal that's what people were also getting at, not anything specific her denying the request i'm on her side but she could have the entire interview used banmal or have been more formal

that’s what I understand, but what was exactly wrong she said? For example, the first few seconds of the video which korean words should she use to make it more formal?