kpop has gotten so boring (1 Viewer)

[Moguri]

thats true, what i meant was more that kpop seems to have become more commercialized than it was before. With it becoming so popular i think companies feel like they just need to keep debuting groups while not putting any effort into what they’re putting out. some companies may prioritize quantity over quality in terms of debuting new groups, leading to a decline in the uniqueness of the music. And i feel like certain kpop groups (i wont name them) have lost individuality. They all feel the same. Recycling the same concept over and over again. I feel a lacking sense of excitement with each new debut. But that’s just how i feel

While music quality is alwasy very subjective, I can see your point. But its just hard to invent new styles / concepts at a point if several hundred groups debut per year.. now we even already have full AI groups

 

[Moguri]

a bit over three years (not even that long smhhh)

some users here are fans for so long (like 10 years or so), I'm always super impressed when I hear that

 

[velvet]

your post makes it sound quite exciting tbh and the opposite to what was said in the OP

Depends how you look at it I guess lol. Stanning groups are more 'niche' than what it used to be, so people tend to have more personalised stanlists than before. I think it's good knowing k-pop groups are more likely to last longer with fanbase support rather than GP support, and the charting positions of groups don't really matter. It's all about the music now not success. In that way I can see how it's good

 

[dark_tranquility]

I disagree.

for me I think kpop has gotten more exciting
always someone new to listen to

 

[velvet]

Depends how you look at it I guess lol. Stanning groups are more 'niche' than what it used to be, so people tend to have more personalised stanlists than before. I think it's good knowing k-pop groups are more likely to last longer with fanbase support rather than GP support, and the charting positions of groups don't really matter. It's all about the music now not success. In that way I can see how it's good

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Thinking out loud here but I think the main problem are actually the fans who justify their groups quality through commercial success: Like no, charting and actual success in K-pop is becoming more irrelevant than ever. Most of the time especially in large fandoms it's a circle jerk. Just focus on the music, please

 

[IGURO]

some users here are fans for so long (like 10 years or so), I'm always super impressed when I hear that

yeah? that's so impressive!

 

[Ahsoka]

thats true, what i meant was more that kpop seems to have become more commercialized than it was before. With it becoming so popular i think companies feel like they just need to keep debuting groups while not putting any effort into what they’re putting out. some companies may prioritize quantity over quality in terms of debuting new groups, leading to a decline in the uniqueness of the music. And i feel like certain kpop groups (i wont name them) have lost individuality. They all feel the same. Recycling the same concept over and over again. I feel a lacking sense of excitement with each new debut. But that’s just how i feel

I still do think that’s been an issue for ages (the sounding all the same). For example, when everyone was making tropical house songs because it was cool and summertime. But if it’s not enjoyable what groups are putting out that’s a fair thing, not everyone has to like all the same things and if the trends are unenjoyable then it will of course not be be viewed favorably. Just how it goes, Im sure during the tropical house craze many a person left kpop because they weren’t enjoying it too.

 

[IGURO]

I disagree.

for me I think kpop has gotten more exciting
always someone new to listen to

sorta the same!!

 

[motorp77]

which ones do you have in mind?

i feel like a lot of groups are trying to reproduce what NJ are doing

 

[Pirioca]

I wish I could turn back time and join the K-Pop scene about 10 or even 15 years before, watching groups like T-ARA, 2NE1, 4MINUTE, KARA, Dreamcatcher, Everglow starting their careers.


Most K-Pop songs I've listened to are from 2nd and 3rd generation groups.

I think kpop is as interesting or boring as ever, its just the peoples interests that change

Often older K-Pop groups have a specific signature 'disco' sound. I joined the K-Pop scene too late to get nostalgic, but I grew up with 70s disco music because of my parents. Maybe that's the reason why I like especially 'Retro' K-Pop.

 

[The_LastRomeo]

I completely agree, the only groups that brought something good to the table this year was older generation Idols

 

[Moguri]

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Thinking out loud here but I think the main problem are actually the fans who justify their groups quality through commercial success: Like no, charting and actual success in K-pop is becoming more irrelevant than ever. Most of the time especially in large fandoms it's a circle jerk. Just focus on the music, please

I think I agree with this point, but I'm also not sure as you kinda contradict yourself do you meant to say relevant instead of irrelevant? Otherwise I think I do not understand your statement

But in general I agree with the point that some fans do not seem to care about the music anymore and just point at sales numbers and charting positions

 

[Moguri]

yeah? that's so impressive!

yep! @RandAlThor just told me yesterday he is in it for 13 years already

 

[Moguri]

i feel like a lot of groups are trying to reproduce what NJ are doing

oh sure... they started a new trend, it happens all the time when you have a new trendsetter I would say, just like with BP in third gen

 

[Moguri]

I wish I could turn back time and join the K-Pop scene about 10 or even 15 years before, watching groups like T-ARA, 2NE1, 4MINUTE, KARA, Dreamcatcher, Everglow starting their careers.


Most K-Pop songs I've listened to are from 2nd and 3rd generation groups.



Often older K-Pop groups have a specific signature 'disco' sound. I joined the K-Pop scene too late to get nostalgic, but I grew up with 70s disco music because of my parents. Maybe that's the reason why I like especially 'Retro' K-Pop.

Do you mean most songs you've listend too, or songs that you liked?

Did you listen to some of Twice releases from the last 2-3 years, they did a lot of retro songs

 

[velvet]

I think I agree with this point, but I'm also not sure as you kinda contradict yourself do you meant to say relevant instead of irrelevant? Otherwise I think I do not understand your statement

But in general I agree with the point that some fans do not seem to care about the music anymore and just point at sales numbers and charting positions

I meant irrelevant, especially since K-pop's success is more based on fans now

 

[Pirioca]

Do you mean most songs you've listend too, or songs that you liked?

Songs I like. But that are the songs I listen to most of the time.

Did you listen to some of Twice releases from the last 2-3 years, they did a lot of retro songs

Oh ok. I'll listen to them, thanks for the hint.

 

[IGURO]

yep! @RandAlThor just told me yesterday he is in it for 13 years already

WOAHHHH that's rlly smth!

 

[Moguri]

I meant irrelevant, especially since K-pop's success is more based on fans now

do you then mean success in terms of only having good results on the charts and not sales wise?

 

[Moguri]

Songs I like. But that are the songs I listen to most of the time.



Oh ok. I'll listen to them, thanks for the hint.

I would ofc never shamelessly promote my faves but here a small selection

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