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im not saying that no one went to buy the album in the stores but at the same time... am i supposed to believe that a group whose fanbase consists of akgaes who dont even like the idea of the group, is new to the American scene, and has barely any impact on any other chart is supposed to sell...

84% of that 164000 were from bundles not them just buying the album. you buy a tour ticket? that is 10 albums, (the tour tickets were only 50 dollars btw) if you bought any of their merch then thats an album. also like I said in an earlier post, they were predicted to only sell 70k even with...

even then... the only sales that should be counted are ones that were bought in America, ive seen online about how fans outside of America were trying to use American addresses to get albums and still have it count towards the billboard chart lol. the shipping address refers to the address the...

I expected them to be desperate but I didn't expect them to be THIS desperate.

theyre gonna break the record for biggest free fall by a Korean artist as well, theyre really breaking all the records, kings tbh.

yikes!! this means that sales from south korea were being counted towards the billboard hot 200 as well which isnt supposed to be allowed!

yeah, the album was apparently only distributed to American stores.

yes they were but again thats still with the bundles. that was actually another controversy, originally superm was predicted to have 70k sales, even with the bundles, and these prediction counts are usually never off and if they are it's by a little, people are wondering where those extra sales...

yes western artists have used bundles before... but the difference is that superm used 60... not one or two or even 3 or 4... 60. and there are people who are bringing summer walker into this just because theyre mad and im not gonna say that they aren't... but I dont think it's wrong to bring...

sure... but only after red velvets next full album comes out :seokeyes:

just because it is allowed does not mean that what sm did with superm wasnt shady and manipulative as hell. the difference between buying an album is that the fans chose to buy the album with the music, not clothing or tour tickets. when you buy an album you're supposed to be buying it for the...

superm used 60 bundles to get to really get to this point, and they only had 4000 SPS... that number should be higher if the majority of the sales were sales bought by fans. superm couldn't even chart decently on the American iTunes charts and didn't have good streams. meanwhile the artist who...

at least he learned from his mistakes and actually apologized to the victim.

every group is westernized because kpops inspiration has always followed western music. but tbh id argue that red velvets dark concepts would do great here in America if they were given the right promotion (bad boy, peekaboo). but I think that I prefer girl groups like blackpink, idk I just...

The girls waited for an hour, it’s not their fault if anything it’s the events fault for not informing the girls that the event was gonna be later. Also, the girls only got to be on stage for like four minutes at the end, if they were performing it would be different but they didn’t. it’s really...

True I agree. They shouldn’t be a permanent group, I think people wouldn’t be as annoyed by this group if it was just a one time thing that was a cool collaboration between sm artists. But it’s not and that’s the problem. I think that this YouTuber explains it really well, go to about 6:10

I’m sorry but this comment without context is just... :lisalaugh: but i agree with the op, I feel like the only two groups who are actually impacting America are bts and blackpink. The gp have picked the groups that they’re interested in, and in the future they might pick more. It needs to...

yikes

oh so fromis is really permanent?

right