Produce X 101 has a contestant that’s a flat-earther (1 Viewer)

[Myco]

Folks, ‘Produce X 101’ has a contestant that’s a flat-earther - Asian Junkie

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[Myco]

@Peach

 

[JakeyWantsCakey]

I wonder if he's a Shane stan?

 

[Walnutt]

:nosejoo:

 

[Minuteman]

Wait, is he for real a flat-earther? Or does he just research stuff about flat earth online so that he can get a good laugh?

 

[Belgizen]

Ok in all seriousness, the theory is kinda appealing
I don't believe it whatsoever but there are some strong points is all I'm gonna say

 

[Belgizen]

Wait, is he for real a flat-earther? Or does he just research stuff about flat earth online so that he can get a good laugh?

yea studying sounds more like looking up things about it than it being a belief

 

[Crackhead]

no wonder he trained for 8 years then.. jkjk but 8 years bruh I'm more surprised with that

 

[Minuteman]

Ok in all seriousness, the theory is kinda appealing
I don't believe it whatsoever but there are some strong points is all I'm gonna say

Okay but now I'm curious about the parts of the theory that appeal to you

 

[Darkyoda47]

 

[Belgizen]

Okay but now I'm curious about the parts of the theory that appeal to you

For starters, there are a lot of stories on how airplanes don't fly over the North Pole and actually let planes fly around it. It does not make any sense. I study Aviation and I haven't had a single reason to justify why they would do that.
Also, you are not allowed on the continent without supervision and only a small part is accessable.
It is said that the UN flag is the earth as flat earthers see it. Many could say that they wanted to include the whole world but why would you center the NP? Wouldn't it make sense to take the map of the world as we know it?
Also a lot of flat earthers don't believe NASA, who provides the images of the world that we know, because of the moon landing conspiracy.

 

[infire707]

I wholeheartedly agree with him


The world is flat, thats that.


stan CLC

 

[lexus]

I'm not sure if he actually believes that the earth is flat or if he just likes to study the theories surrounding it just for fun.

 

[Minuteman]

For starters, there are a lot of stories on how airplanes don't fly over the North Pole and actually let planes fly around it. It does not make any sense. I study Aviation and I haven't had a single reason to justify why they would do that.
Also, you are not allowed on the continent without supervision and only a small part is accessable.
It is said that the UN flag is the earth as flat earthers see it. Many could say that they wanted to include the whole world but why would you center the NP? Wouldn't it make sense to take the map of the world as we know it?
Also a lot of flat earthers don't believe NASA, who provides the images of the world that we know, because of the moon landing conspiracy.

Honestly, I don't have any answers for any of those without looking them up lol.

Spoiler

So I looked up the North Pole thing. And planes do fly over the North Pole, just not often. And really, many times there isn't a reason to fly directly over the North Pole. Obviously you're waaaay more informed than me if you study aviation lol, but from my understanding, the routes that you would need to take to get from one place to another would be longer if you traveled over the north pole in many cases, so there's no point anyway. And since flight paths also attempt to take into account winds in order to minimize fuel costs, that would also affect where they travel.
Plus, you can also use flight paths and flight times to show that the flat polar map that they use is wrong. On the flat earth map, you'll notice that the southern hemisphere is really stretched out. Any flight between, say, Cape Town and Sydney across the Indian Ocean, would take significantly longer using the flat earth map than it does in real life (not related to flights over the poles but still thought I'd share lol).

With the UN flag, maybe they just wanted a circle instead of a rectangle because it would look better, so they went with that one. I think flat earthers latched onto that image after the UN did, but idk. But really, the polar view is just one of many different ways of displaying the world map. Why do we center the cartesian map at the intersection of the equator and prime meridian at the center? Why wouldn't we center it somewhere else and maybe have the prime meridian at the edge of the map? It's just a choice of how to display our planet.

As for the whole distrusting NASA thing, I'm pretty sure a lot of that (most of the time, not all the time) stems from a general distrusting of authority. As far as I know, a lot of the distrust comes from the idea that all of the pictures of Earth are composite images, because the satellites that take them are too close to get the entire Earth in one shot. BUT there are full pictures of the globe earth from the moon, and those aren't composite. Then again, if the flat-earthers think the moon landing is a hoax, they probably think those pictures are too. But there are plenty of videos online that show how the moon landing wasn't a hoax, using actual science.

With Antarctica, there are people who have traveled to the south pole. Yes, there are limitations on where you can go, but that's because we've put things in place to protect the continent from being ravaged by humans one way or another. And I know some flat-earthers will say that people have never been to the south pole and it's a hoax, but that basically once again comes down to distrusting authority I think.

And I know you said you don't believe it and never will, so I'm not coming at you lol. I just got interested in looking everything up to see what I could find, and I figured I would share my understandings of all of it.

BUT ANYWAY

I mean, if the guy is talented and would make the group better, then it doesn't really matter to me if he actually does believe in a flat earth.

 

[blueberries]

:BREAD:

 

[Sana]

Atleast he is cute somehow

 

[taemkitten]

He's cute...but let me push him off the edge of the flat Earth if he believes it
JK JK people are entitled to believe what they want, I for sure am not going to stop them. I will side eye in secret though, can't lie

 

[Belgizen]

Honestly, I don't have any answers for any of those without looking them up lol.

Spoiler

So I looked up the North Pole thing. And planes do fly over the North Pole, just not often. And really, many times there isn't a reason to fly directly over the North Pole. Obviously you're waaaay more informed than me if you study aviation lol, but from my understanding, the routes that you would need to take to get from one place to another would be longer if you traveled over the north pole in many cases, so there's no point anyway. And since flight paths also attempt to take into account winds in order to minimize fuel costs, that would also affect where they travel.
Plus, you can also use flight paths and flight times to show that the flat polar map that they use is wrong. On the flat earth map, you'll notice that the southern hemisphere is really stretched out. Any flight between, say, Cape Town and Sydney across the Indian Ocean, would take significantly longer using the flat earth map than it does in real life (not related to flights over the poles but still thought I'd share lol).

With the UN flag, maybe they just wanted a circle instead of a rectangle because it would look better, so they went with that one. I think flat earthers latched onto that image after the UN did, but idk. But really, the polar view is just one of many different ways of displaying the world map. Why do we center the cartesian map at the intersection of the equator and prime meridian at the center? Why wouldn't we center it somewhere else and maybe have the prime meridian at the edge of the map? It's just a choice of how to display our planet.

As for the whole distrusting NASA thing, I'm pretty sure a lot of that (most of the time, not all the time) stems from a general distrusting of authority. As far as I know, a lot of the distrust comes from the idea that all of the pictures of Earth are composite images, because the satellites that take them are too close to get the entire Earth in one shot. BUT there are full pictures of the globe earth from the moon, and those aren't composite. Then again, if the flat-earthers think the moon landing is a hoax, they probably think those pictures are too. But there are plenty of videos online that show how the moon landing wasn't a hoax, using actual science.

With Antarctica, there are people who have traveled to the south pole. Yes, there are limitations on where you can go, but that's because we've put things in place to protect the continent from being ravaged by humans one way or another. And I know some flat-earthers will say that people have never been to the south pole and it's a hoax, but that basically once again comes down to distrusting authority I think.

And I know you said you don't believe it and never will, so I'm not coming at you lol. I just got interested in looking everything up to see what I could find, and I figured I would share my understandings of all of it.

BUT ANYWAY

I mean, if the guy is talented and would make the group better, then it doesn't really matter to me if he actually does believe in a flat earth.

Yea there is some flight-activity above the North Pole but only the edges of the continent. It does not make sense cuz after all, changing your route is fuel-absorbing. I could only think of the issue with boundaries (Freedoms of the Air) but the North Pole doesn't belong to anyone so it's something that makes the theory believable. This is the only part of the theory that I think really makes sense

At this point, flat earthers are kinda like people who believe in religions. It's their belief and while it is kinda weird to believe in it, I see it as I see a religion so I respect those people. It's kinda sad that other make fun of those people when it's just their belief. I believe that 9/11 was an inside job and that the moon landing was fake, but that's me and those conspiracies represent the way how I think, just like Christians, Atheists etc do.
And tbh, considering the theories that form the whole theory, I do understand why some people believe it.

 

[planetarium]

For starters, there are a lot of stories on how airplanes don't fly over the North Pole and actually let planes fly around it. It does not make any sense. I study Aviation and I haven't had a single reason to justify why they would do that.
Also, you are not allowed on the continent without supervision and only a small part is accessable.

Minuteman already answered to some of these, but couldn't it also be something to do with pollution and hurting the continent that's already in danger? I don't know exactly how planes work but it'd sound plausible, maybe? I got curious.

But yeah, doesn't really matter whether the trainee believes in such stuff or not if he's good. Doesn't really affect his ability to perform.

 

[Belgizen]

Minuteman already answered to some of these, but couldn't it also be something to do with pollution and hurting the continent that's already in danger? I don't know exactly how planes work but it'd sound plausible, maybe? I got curious.

But yeah, doesn't really matter whether the trainee believes in such stuff or not if he's good. Doesn't really affect his ability to perform.

But the thing is, they have done it way before pollution was a topic
Maybe in a few years I can have an answer to this, but rn it's a mystery

As I stated before, those people kinda see it as their religion. To non-believers it is ridiculous and they laugh at it, but these people really find it important in their life. A reason why many people believe it or get appealed to this is, as Shane's brother said: "It gives us humans a purpose in live. We get an important role rather than living on a giant rock hurdling through space."