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Do you think it's better when groups have the same styles or something that kind of defines their style in their music and promotions?

For example:

BlackPink has just released "Kill This Love" and has shown an eye-candy visual, but similar to their past MV's they still retain that almost dark-rimmed look with their scenery and props, flanked by minimal planes, diamond-studded/sequin-studded/mirror-studded items (glasses, curtains, walls, tanks, etc), similar fashion (flowy and airy dresses or outfits for Jisoo and Rose, more "badass princess" for Jennie, and "badass gangsta" for Lisa), and the signature neon pinks and blues that have also been seen a lot in their videos. The title songs (although not always) have a similar style as well; bangers that have a heavy and easy to pick up beat along, a couple of musically soft and smooth lines delivered between fast and thick rapping sections and an overall feel of "yes, I'm a badass, come at me world." This isn't, again, always the case, but definitely is apparent of a few of the title tracks thus far.


Or do you think that all groups should focus on switching it up every time they have a comeback?

For example:

SHINee change nearly every element from comeback to comeback (unless it's tied to previous comeback storylines, but this is rare). It's most evident during times that repackages have come out, like "1 of 1" and "Tell Me What to Do." "1 of 1" was a minimal, very dated and 90's-inspired MV, the song of a similar sound. It could be seen as boring and not very eye-catching, unlike "Tell Me What to Do" that followed after during the same period, a location-filmed MV complete with pyrotechnics, edgy lyrics and facial expressions, and masculine undertones in the visual aspect of the MV. "Lucifer" and "Hello" were similar in that they were released with months of one another, and while one was edgy, punkish, hard elements of metal, cars, and leather while the other was soft, boy-next-door, colorful outfits and smiling faces.


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Personally, I think having a bit of both is the best option. You'd think I'd be Hella biased and say SHINEE'S SWITCHING IT UP EVERY TIME IS BEST!!! because of bias, but, I think it's important to have somewhat of a "brand" on a group's work, even if it's something little that kind of follows with every MV and every title (though that's just my opinion). So far I think groups like ASTRO, Red Velvet, Mamamoo, and Infinite are kind of prime examples of this, as there always seem to be elements scattered here or there in their dance, visuals of the MV, concepts, or songs that are distinctly their style, but they also have tried new things within their songs and MVs that really make each release unique but familiar. It falls a little bit more on the first one - not changing a lot - but with a hint of the second one.

(By the way, that's not to say that I think BP and SHINee don't have their own "distinct style" or sound, nor any other groups - because they definitely do - but what I mean is perhaps in how the songs are sang, or how they are presented by the groups that make them still following the pattern of the group while being different enough to not stay the same/similar sounds....I make no sense omg)


What do you think?
 

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I prefer a little bit in the middle. I like the songs to have fairly similar vibes to them, because if I like the artist I don't want them to completely change, but I like the theme of music videos changing unless in a series of some sort. For example, I like the vibe of Seventeen's music that has stayed somewhat consistent, but I would like to see more darker concepts. Then again though, changing the theme of music videos drastically can also sometimes require a change in the music, but overall I just like the songs to keep similar vibes. Branching out can be good sometimes too though. So,,I've contradicted what I've said multiple times in this paragraph so,,,I think it just depends on the group lol.
 

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I like what Mamamoo's doing. Each comeback is a little different in concept, sound, and style but still retains the classy, quirky Mamamoo nature. It's hard to explain. I think Block B does pretty well at this too.

(If not done right, drastic changes can be jarring or alienating to the fanbase, and copy-paste similar sounds all the time can get monotonous.)
 

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Never touch a running system, but i get what you mean. Maybe BP would have more varity on their style but looking how small their discography is, compared to other groups, so one might think, they dont wanna gamble with that small amount of CBs they have on their style and so on.. ( what a weird sentence, sorry )

Somehow, i have the feeling next cb will be different, i could be wrong.
I really love BP style, but i might be biased, ohh hell i am biased for sure. 🤣🤣😂😂

Ideal would be something in the middle, right.

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I think they switch the concept once in a while, not all the time because it wouldn't be a surprise anymore
 

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I prefer a little bit in the middle. I like the songs to have fairly similar vibes to them, because if I like the artist I don't want them to completely change, but I like the theme of music videos changing unless in a series of some sort. For example, I like the vibe of Seventeen's music that has stayed somewhat consistent, but I would like to see more darker concepts. Then again though, changing the theme of music videos drastically can also sometimes require a change in the music, but overall I just like the songs to keep similar vibes. Branching out can be good sometimes too though. So,,I've contradicted what I've said multiple times in this paragraph so,,,I think it just depends on the group lol.
Haha! I understood what you said - because I kind of contradicted what I said too, and sort of lumped two of them together (kind of).

I like what Mamamoo's doing. Each comeback is a little different in concept, sound, and style but still retains the classy, quirky Mamamoo nature. It's hard to explain. I think Block B does pretty well at this too.

(If not done right, drastic changes can be jarring or alienating to the fanbase, and copy-paste similar sounds all the time can get monotonous.)
Yeah, agreed. It's something that they both do well - you know immediately from the song and the style of the MV that it's them, but, it's still different almost every time. It's really nicely done.

Never touch a running system, but i get what you mean. Maybe BP would have more varity on their style but looking how small their discography is, compared to other groups, so one might think, they dont wanna gamble with that small amount of CBs they have on their style and so on.. ( what a weird sentence, sorry )

Somehow, i have the feeling next cb will be different, i could be wrong.
I really love BP style, but i might be biased, ohh hell i am biased for sure. 🤣🤣😂😂

Ideal would be something in the middle, right.

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I fully agree with you!
The thing about BP too, is that they had a moment of branching out a bit more with "Stay" - it was definitely different in terms of the MV itself (more gloomy, more pastel and soft, fitting of the song, with a hint of acoustic qualities in the music itself - it had rapping, but it wasn't "go hard or go home" and it didn't have the heavy beats), but I'm not sure it really fit them or what YG was trying to have them represent. The unfortunate part I feel for BP is that it's like...he's trying to make them a less "quirky" version of 2ne1 but still reflect the badassery that their predecessor had and that a lot of his groups are known to give off in their styles, but BP just with a more pink and chic way of presenting it.

BUT!

Their sound is definitely growing from what 2ne1 had/sounded like, and for that I'm thankful. I get why people tend to compare them (like I just did) due to the similarities from the company's hands, but at the same time I hate when people compare them too - they're two completely different groups, and if you really look beyond some of the elements that are similar you'll notice that they're nothing alike.

That aside, I definitely agree too - they're kind of still in their growth (it's hard to still consider them rookies/coming out of rookie level) because of how big they blew up. It reminds me of BTS at the start/during rookie, and actually just about all groups; they have something that works for them, represents them well, and they keep going with it while the fanbase grows. Then once they are more stable and able, they start to expand more with their styles and music to see what works and what doesn't. Makes sense, really. ASTRO did it too (flowery soda school boys during their first year of promotion).

I'm really curious if they will grow into something different as time goes on, or if they will be one of the groups that retains that same sort of feeling in their music and visual presentation through their career.
 
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I guess it depends on the group. I mean Apink have been steadily maturing their sound whilst also keeping with the more innocent concept, which has worked well for them.
However EXO have always kept switching each comeback up, which has worked well for them also.
 
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New to BlackPink, not the idea or knowledge of them-just their discography: I love Kill This Love m Kick It; streaming their songs on Spotify just today I think BP hv a strong identity-they shouldn't stray from their core to be girly like twice or versatile like red velvet.

But not sure abt other kpop groups-have seem random CLC, Loona n others on the cable Korean channel I watch n MTV but nothing really hits me like SNSD did n now BP.

So my opinion is very narrow but I think representative of general public maybe, who aren't bg/gg stans n may listen to kpop randomly.

Really not sure which works better-mix it up or stick to what you do best/what public expects/knows you for. Maybe depends on the group-BP stick to their image n RV mix it up from red concept to Velvet concept-which I don't fully get since I havent listened to all their songs.

Don't know if I'm making sense since I don't know much about too many groups.
 

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Tbh I normally don't mind as long as the music is good. But, for example, GFriend has a particular sound, right? For two comebacks, they completely switched out that sound (Sunny Summer and Fingertip) and tbh I wasn't very happy lol. I like concept changes but as long as the group doesn't lose their identity with the change.
 

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