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Yeh feel free to be mad cause this kinda thoughts i know im prob only one who thinks...
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p.s i love all nct members so yes argue it but dont take it personally
as i wouldn't change anything about the members as people
[well what i know about them]


1. If Johnny was a trainee when nct was at 21 members [like shotaro and sungchan]
he wouldn't of made the cut..
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2. winwin was debuted only as a visual
but due to nct having so many visuals... nothing would change if he left
[apart from people being sad obv]
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3. Chenle was debuted due to how popular [in china] and cute he was
but now he has grown up
he doesn't match up to his potential
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4. Shotaro was a experiment debut
[he was on tiktok already and decent/good amount followers]
debuting a influencer
due to most trainees prob will all come with some form of social media presence now
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5. Dream was better without mark
[sorry but dream is better vocal heavy than rap heavy]
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6. They had no intentions of bringing jaemin back to nct dream..
he was only returned due to fans being annoyed waiting
[i feel like they planned to bring him back in a different unit]
aka this year with sungchan and shotaro
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2. winwin was debuted only as a visual
but due to nct having so many visuals... nothing would change if he left
[apart from people being sad obv]
I do agree that he debuted only as visual but he is definitely not only this. That's somehow offensive to say something like that when WW is one of the best dancers of NCT.

3. Chenle was debuted due to how popular [in china] and cute he was
but now he has grown up
he doesn't match up to his potential
I think the problem with Chenle being less popular over the years is because people start realizing that he is not the typical idol people would want to stan. But he's been getting more attention lately with Daegal and ChenD and he has a lot of potential to be proven.

5. Dream was better without mark
I agree on these. The other two were taken from nowhere.
 

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I do agree that he debuted only as visual but he is definitely not only this. That's somehow offensive to say something like that when WW is one of the best dancers of NCT.



I think the problem with Chenle being less popular over the years is because people start realizing that he is not the typical idol people would want to stan. But he's been getting more attention lately with Daegal and ChenD and he has a lot of potential to be proven.



I agree on these. The other two were taken from nowhere.
winwin is not the best dancer
ten deffo is << he is like 10x better than all below
than jisung
than winwin maybe as Shotaro is a professional dancer so unsure where he places

chenle only debutted cause of his previous history to try bring in chinese fans and that didnt work
this why dream stop promoting in china as much
but i agree he getting more fans but he very bottom tier of nct fans wise
even within china he wouldnt top wayv members and i feel renjun would be higher than chenle due to his visuals


The other two were taken from nowhere.<<huh
 

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I think Chenle was picked to bring chinese fans, but here I think him having prior popularity in china wasn't that big of a factor. His fame in china pre-debut wasn't that big. Not to mention child-stars don't tend to have the same fanbase as idols. Just having a Chinese member if you are trying to target china is a very good idea. Chenle was the right age, used to the stage etc... SM might not have had a good alternative inside the company at the time.

And as to why Chenle doesn't "live up to expectations"... basically.... he just doesn't do fan service. He doesn't go out of his way to appeal to fans, simple as that. This imo gives him another kind of charm that hasn't been capitalized on, esp considering at first his appeal WAS supposed to be his cuteness that was only doubled by his lack of Korean skills. I think Shotaro might have this problem further on as well as his image is quite similar to what Chenle had back then. Cute with bad Korean.

I really hope Chenle will get added to WayV, I think his image and personality will be able to shine a lot better there.
 

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winwin is not the best dancer
I didn't said he is.

chenle only debutted cause of his previous history to try bring in chinese fans and that didnt work
this why dream stop promoting in china as much
but i agree he getting more fans but he very bottom tier of nct fans wise
even within china he wouldnt top wayv members and i feel renjun would be higher than chenle due to his visuals
I think you are being delusional now. Let's not forget that Chenle Bar was the third bigger for Reload with 40k sales. Have any Wayv cbar ever reached that amount of sales for only one release? The answer is no.

And from what i know Dream stopped promoting in China because RJ and CH were meant to move to WayV.
 

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I didn't said he is.



I think you are being delusional now. Let's not forget that Chenle Bar was the third bigger for Reload with 40k sales. Have any Wayv cbar ever reached that amount of sales for only one release? The answer is no.

And from what i know Dream stopped promoting in China because RJ and CH were meant to move to WayV.
replied really late so read " like that when WW is one of the best dancers " this wrong

they stoped promoting in china really early on way before wayv was mentioned
they have never been announced to join wayv we just assume they are joining cause there chinese and winwin joined
and chenle is a vocalist of course he has high end on lines but he has never had the most lines ever...
and dream is just more popular than wayv and will always will as sm doesnt promote wayv right
 

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I think Chenle was picked to bring chinese fans, but here I think him having prior popularity in china wasn't that big of a factor. His fame in china pre-debut wasn't that big. Not to mention child-stars don't tend to have the same fanbase as idols. Just having a Chinese member if you are trying to target china is a very good idea. Chenle was the right age, used to the stage etc... SM might not have had a good alternative inside the company at the time.

And as to why Chenle doesn't "live up to expectations"... basically.... he just doesn't do fan service. He doesn't go out of his way to appeal to fans, simple as that. This imo gives him another kind of charm that hasn't been capitalized on, esp considering at first his appeal WAS supposed to be his cuteness that was only doubled by his lack of Korean skills. I think Shotaro might have this problem further on as well as his image is quite similar to what Chenle had back then. Cute with bad Korean.

I really hope Chenle will get added to WayV, I think his image and personality will be able to shine a lot better there.
I think sm should debut a second Chinese unit instead of adding them to wayv
as than they could have a secondary nct kind of thing within china
wayv debuted in 2019 so maybe in 2023
we can get a something V
boyV [Chinese groups love putting boy in the title {tfboys yhboys boystory etc}]
renjun 23 leader..
chenle 22...
than newbies....
 

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