News lucas' first chinese fansite closes (1 Viewer)

[mysteric]

honestly everything is too messy for me so I'm going to wait for things to cool down
that being said, a lot of the reactions don't seem to bode well
it's probably going to get buried underneath the qin feng news too so I'm guessing the next few days will also be very messy

 

[brekker]

MY LUCAS??????? WHAT HAS THE BOY DONE??????????? nooooo

 

[mysteric]

MY LUCAS??????? WHAT HAS THE BOY DONE??????????? nooooo

allegedly cheating (kinda, with a fwb), being generally cheap, throwing shade at group members and former trainees, nothing too too bad (in terms of cent scandals this year) but stuff that generally reflects poorly on him as a person

 

[brekker]

allegedly cheating (kinda, with a fwb), being generally cheap, throwing shade at group members and former trainees, nothing too too bad (in terms of cent scandals this year) but stuff that generally reflects poorly on him as a person

as I had read your post I went on google and found about living off a fan and being cheap which sounds sus if only considering that he comes from a well-off family and is rich as heck and the fan or ex-gf apparently used his messages to fans to compose a fake message that she later shared and used as her evidence.

I know even in one WayV video they said he has many girlfriends (wasn´t it Ten who made fun of him?) but I dunno cheating I could believe, he is young, handsome, rich and quite busy, might be hard to build a proper relationship and if he was a jerk about it ... well not the first, not the last? but him being a cheap ass?? come on! :D

"let me google that shade" :D

 

[mysteric]

as I had read your post I went on google and found about living off a fan and being cheap which sounds sus if only considering that he comes from a well-off family and is rich as heck and the fan or ex-gf apparently used his messages to fans to compose a fake message that she later shared and used as her evidence.

I know even in one WayV video they said he has many girlfriends (wasn´t it Ten who made fun of him?) but I dunno cheating I could believe, he is young, handsome, rich and quite busy, might be hard to build a proper relationship and if he was a jerk about it ... well not the first, not the last? but him being a cheap ass?? come on! :D

"let me google that shade" :D

well, cheap as in he'd ask her to buy stuff for him after they ended things (on good terms too)
allegedly also complained about a few of his dad's investments failing and complaining that a member was stealing his fashion gigs + debuted just through his looks, but idk about the track record of the yxh that just posted it
but a lot of the debunking threads I've seen on twitter (no clue about weibo, I stay away from their fanwars) have messed up the dates and included information that wasn't posted by the people who started the allegations so idk; sm's non statement doesn't give me a good feeling either
since everyone is occupied with qin feng's case I doubt many people will try to sift through all the information so again, I'm going to wait a bit for a final judgement on my end

 

[brekker]

well, cheap as in he'd ask her to buy stuff for him after they ended things (on good terms too)
allegedly also complained about a few of his dad's investments failing and complaining that a member was stealing his fashion gigs + debuted just through his looks, but idk about the track record of the yxh that just posted it
but a lot of the debunking threads I've seen on twitter (no clue about weibo, I stay away from their fanwars) have messed up the dates and included information that wasn't posted by the people who started the allegations so idk; sm's non statement doesn't give me a good feeling either
since everyone is occupied with qin feng's case I doubt many people will try to sift through all the information so again, I'm going to wait a bit for a final judgement on my end

tbh I am reluctant to believe simply because he is my wayv favourite boy. I really like his personality. he comes off as lively, caring and fun. I don´t know him in real life of course, but I just really wish this is all a lie because I´d be really disappointed. he is not my favourite rapper, not my favourite by looks, but I just really like him the most for his personality. what a downfall that would be :/

 

[mysteric]

tbh I am reluctant to believe simply because he is my wayv favourite boy. I really like his personality. he comes off as lively, caring and fun. I don´t know him in real life of course, but I just really wish this is all a lie because I´d be really disappointed. he is not my favourite rapper, not my favourite by looks, but I just really like him the most for his personality. what a downfall that would be :/

honestly if it were to be true, I'd only side eye the making his ex fwb buy him things bit and complaining about his members, but I wouldn't completely drop him for it, maybe just not be as enthusiastic supporting him lol; that being said everyone has different bottom lines
the rest (complaining about work, his dad's investments not working out, having a relationship, voting for himself on visual battle on side burner account, etc) would usually be a non issue had it not been exposed alongside the other allegations
just a lot of bad timing, especially when ding chengxin is doing so well now

 

[brekker]

honestly if it were to be true, I'd only side eye the making his ex fwb buy him things bit and complaining about his members, but I wouldn't completely drop him for it, maybe just not be as enthusiastic supporting him lol; that being said everyone has different bottom lines
the rest (complaining about work, his dad's investments not working out, having a relationship, voting for himself on visual battle on side burner account, etc) would usually be a non issue had it not been exposed alongside the other allegations
just a lot of bad timing, especially when ding chengxin is doing so well now

true, I mean .. it´s not like she had to buy him things? if someone told me to buy them things... I´d be like "hell no? use your own money" no matter what would be the excuse (his manager finding out, him being a celebrity not wanting to get found etc.). if he complained about his members I wouldn´t really mind unless there were some horrible names thrown around. I mean they are a group of 23 people, pretty sure they gossip and don´t get 100% along superbly well. but still it doesn´t present him in the best of ways :D. even when we consider the fact that he is obviously not able to choose well among all the girls that pile after him :D always judge a person by who they choose to associate themselves with.

I don´t know what is China doing with all that backstabbing their own stars though? is that really some sort of a war against capitalist entertainment? are they trying to prove everyone they are true communists? that the regime is as strong as before??? why is all that happening?

 

[mysteric]

true, I mean .. it´s not like she had to buy him things? if someone told me to buy them things... I´d be like "hell no? use your own money" no matter what would be the excuse (his manager finding out, him being a celebrity not wanting to get found etc.). if he complained about his members I wouldn´t really mind unless there were some horrible names thrown around. I mean they are a group of 23 people, pretty sure they gossip and don´t get 100% along superbly well. but still it doesn´t present him in the best of ways :D. even when we consider the fact that he is obviously not able to choose well among all the girls that pile after him :D always judge a person by who they choose to associate themselves with.

I don´t know what is China doing with all that backstabbing their own stars though? is that really some sort of a war against capitalist entertainment? are they trying to prove everyone they are true communists? that the regime is as strong as before??? why is all that happening?

the way he framed it was a bit guilt trippy imo, especially since they had already broken things off
she didn't have to run out to buy him cigarettes, but it's kind of unreasonable for him to ask in the first place imo

zheng shuang was her and her ex taking turns to see who was more awful (she won but he isn't much better, glad to see that she's going through therapy now at least), zhang bichen and huan chenyu used that opportunity to get their news out without too much backlash
honestly I think dmz coming clean was the big trigger for more women to come out with their stories (that one singer dude hou zun I think and now qin feng), zzh was him pissing off his longtime fans who decided to drop and expose him for being an asshole which eventually snowballed into whatever happened there
there has been a govt attempt for years now to curb fandom because of how largely toxic it has become (if weibo is stantwt on steroids, then douban... no words) and also serious concerns about the fan economy (every year there's a story about some hyh or yyh fantou running off with hundreds and thousands of rmb, and the way that there's millions of dollars circulating unregulated on the internet I doubt is a bright idea anywhere), but I don't think there's some greater ccp conspiracy to this year in cent, the bubble was bound to burst anyways
plus, the ccp is actually more popular with the younger generation than the older generation, at least for now

 

[Jimimis]

Not to be *that* person but I gotta say lucas is my least favorite member and I’m not surprised, he has always had that kind of obnoxious vibe .

 

[brekker]

the way he framed it was a bit guilt trippy imo, especially since they had already broken things off
she didn't have to run out to buy him cigarettes, but it's kind of unreasonable for him to ask in the first place imo

zheng shuang was her and her ex taking turns to see who was more awful (she won but he isn't much better, glad to see that she's going through therapy now at least), zhang bichen and huan chenyu used that opportunity to get their news out without too much backlash
honestly I think dmz coming clean was the big trigger for more women to come out with their stories (that one singer dude hou zun I think and now qin feng), zzh was him pissing off his longtime fans who decided to drop and expose him for being an asshole which eventually snowballed into whatever happened there
there has been a govt attempt for years now to curb fandom because of how largely toxic it has become (if weibo is stantwt on steroids, then douban... no words) and also serious concerns about the fan economy (every year there's a story about some hyh or yyh fantou running off with hundreds and thousands of rmb, and the way that there's millions of dollars circulating unregulated on the internet I doubt is a bright idea anywhere), but I don't think there's some greater ccp conspiracy to this year in cent, the bubble was bound to burst anyways
plus, the ccp is actually more popular with the younger generation than the older generation, at least for now

why I am coming with that theory is because they started the policies on Tencent´s gaming business and in general, they have been vocal about how Chinese government has become slowly more and more unhappy about big money business. of course they enjoy their booming economy but as long as the capitalism is controlled by the state. so I have been wondering about that theory for a while - are they trying to purposely bring the entertainment down for a while? or maybe that is just my overthinking.

hua chenyu having a kid is actually a sweet news. I don´t know why that has never come to me as a controversy :D. but I understand for some it might.

also as you have mentioned fandoms. fandoms in China are indeed quite serious. I once read that Xiao Zhan´s own fans blocked him from entering HIS hotel room and I was like woha woha there. insane. but entertaining enough if you do enjoy some twisted cynical fun :D.

 

[VillageIdiot]

This is interesting but what's the qin Feng news thats gonna bury it

 

[mysteric]

why I am coming with that theory is because they started the policies on Tencent´s gaming business and in general, they have been vocal about how Chinese government has become slowly more and more unhappy about big money business. of course they enjoy their booming economy but as long as the capitalism is controlled by the state. so I have been wondering about that theory for a while - are they trying to purposely bring the entertainment down for a while? or maybe that is just my overthinking.

hua chenyu having a kid is actually a sweet news. I don´t know why that has never come to me as a controversy :D. but I understand for some it might.

also as you have mentioned fandoms. fandoms in China are indeed quite serious. I once read that Xiao Zhan´s own fans blocked him from entering HIS hotel room and I was like woha woha there. insane. but entertaining enough if you do enjoy some twisted cynical fun :D.

with the ant group block recently too
I think it goes both ways tbh, ccp wanting to exert more power into celeb culture but also curbing fandom + the cent circle being... not the greatest to be in (like any ent circle) especially now that the idol industry is oversaturated with fuerdais

hcy having a kid was a scandal because apparently he went by for 2 years w/o knowing that he had a kid since zbc ghosted him when she figured out she was pregnant don't really buy it but ok you do you queen

xz fans are obnoxious I'm sorry which is why I've avoided his work, but he seems like a cool guy, same with a lot of the other big liuliangs rn
happens with every fandom, I remember kiki's fans going at it with faka's for no reason other than to satisfy their thirst for revenge after 2019 beef now that kiki was no longer a flop (rip faka)

 

[mysteric]

This is interesting but what's the qin Feng news thats gonna bury it

drugged and raped a woman who worked on happy camp for an episode in 2019, she released surveillance camera footage of him dragging her into the room, he's an established name and hunan tv has dropped him already so it's big news

 

[mysteric]

Not to be *that* person but I gotta say lucas is my least favorite member and I’m not surprised, he has always had that kind of obnoxious vibe .

if it's true, then I'll be blunt and say that if you made me choose an nct member who would go through some similar scandal last year, my first would've been him too based on the persona he puts on
I realize idol and celebrity personas aren't everything, but it's scary how accurate some of them end up being re: zheng shuang, miyo, kong xiaoyin this year alone
still super disappointed with kxy tbh, I didn't think she'd leave under those circumstances and she was such a performer, my 2nd river push

 

[VillageIdiot]

drugged and raped a woman who worked on happy camp for an episode in 2019, she released surveillance camera footage of him dragging her into the room, he's an established name and hunan tv has dropped him already so it's big news

I need to start getting on Weibo talk more smh

 

[mysteric]

I need to start getting on Weibo talk more smh

this past year has been crazy but I'm glad that at least some of these people are getting cleared out

 

[brekker]

drugged and raped a woman who worked on happy camp for an episode in 2019, she released surveillance camera footage of him dragging her into the room, he's an established name and hunan tv has dropped him already so it's big news

this is disgusting. Jesus Christ. I hope he burns in hell for this. hopefully, he´ll pay for this and not only with money.

 

[mysteric]

this is disgusting. Jesus Christ. I hope he burns in hell for this. hopefully, he´ll pay for this and not only with money.

she got her friends who works in legal affairs to check over the evidence she had before posting about it so I hope more gets done
she filed a complaint to the police in 2019 but the investigation randomly ("randomly") stopped but now that there's media attention on it hopefully she gets a conclusion to it

 

[brekker]

with the ant group block recently too
I think it goes both ways tbh, ccp wanting to exert more power into celeb culture but also curbing fandom + the cent circle being... not the greatest to be in (like any ent circle) especially now that the idol industry is oversaturated with fuerdais

hcy having a kid was a scandal because apparently he went by for 2 years w/o knowing that he had a kid since zbc ghosted him when she figured out she was pregnant don't really buy it but ok you do you queen

xz fans are obnoxious I'm sorry which is why I've avoided his work, but he seems like a cool guy, same with a lot of the other big liuliangs rn
happens with every fandom, I remember kiki's fans going at it with faka's for no reason other than to satisfy their thirst for revenge after 2019 beef now that kiki was no longer a flop (rip faka)

hua cheng seems to me like a Chinese David Bowie with that alien of his or whatever he is presenting himself as? I mean isn´t his fandom name "Martians or something?" I do like his song though, he is great. if he left her and didn´t take care of the child for 2 years, then here we have one of the kings of jerks, but honestly, she wouldn´t be the first woman to do that. I certainly know at least two ladies like that. I can´t say I am confident in knowing him enough (or caring enough) to take a stance though. he certainly doesn´t seem to be the type though.

xiao zhan is really great, his fans are not. he is a decent singer (mostly ballads) and REALLY AMAZING actor. like he can convey emotions ... no jokes and he is handsome. his fans ......... need professional help :D