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Yeah that's huge bs to me lmao he's fluent and he's from America. He's just trying to defend himself instead of admitting his shitty behaviour.honestly i find it a bit hard to believe that he didn't know what it exactly meant but it's not up to me to accept the apology so if jamie does then it's all that matters
i didnt realize the full extent of the word either, but im not American and not super familiar with American slang. my only exposure to that word is through "twitter baddies" so i assumed it meant something like, someone who's not afraid to be hot and sexual i guess? which isnt a bad thing at all imo, though i would still never let a man describe me like that. i guess i just wanted to give jae the benefit of the doubt and assume that they set different boundaries in their friendship and joke like that all the time, but knowing jae is from LA and should probably know what th*t means, and jamie's reaction to it...honestly i find it a bit hard to believe that he didn't know what it exactly meant but it's not up to me to accept the apology so if jamie does then it's all that matters
waiting for the twitlonger that twitch streamers usually useThese legendary note app comebacks are making quicker comebacks than twice. He’ll be doing another one in a week.
This man doesn’t learn.
if anything being free from k-pop just makes his apology seem a bit weird because if he only thought it meant being a "baddie" then why would he specify that he's saying it now that he's no longer a kpop idol? it's not like the word baddie is banned from the kpop dictionary or whatever. so now i just hope he discussed it with jamie personally too because she's the only one that needs an apology hereBeing "free" from K-Pop or whatever his mindset is doesn't mean he should throw away everything PR related he ever learned, doesn't excuse to suddenly say everything he wants no matter his intention. I'd rather have him personally apologize to Jamie than doing a weird note on the internet - if you talked to her then just say sth like "we settled it" and don't try to make yourself look good in the end.
I mean, maybe they had joked like that before? I mean, don´t we all use curse words in different senses? you can call someone "..." in a friendly manner though for others it might be in poor taste (but you and your friend are used to it) and you can call someone "...." and be really mean about it. I guess, it depends on the context and how close they are.i didnt realize the full extent of the word either, but im not American and not super familiar with American slang. my only exposure to that word is through "twitter baddies" so i assumed it meant something like, someone who's not afraid to be hot and sexual i guess? which isnt a bad thing at all imo, though i would still never let a man describe me like that. i guess i just wanted to give jae the benefit of the doubt and assume that they set different boundaries in their friendship and joke like that all the time, but knowing jae is from LA and should probably know what th*t means, and jamie's reaction to it...
he definitely should and hopefully had done so, but he has to share it on twitter and apologize publicly because how would people know? how would the comments towards him stop if he had not posted it?Being "free" from K-Pop or whatever his mindset is doesn't mean he should throw away everything PR related he ever learned, doesn't excuse to suddenly say everything he wants no matter his intention. I'd rather have him personally apologize to Jamie than doing a weird note on the internet - if you talked to her then just say sth like "we settled it" and don't try to make yourself look good in the end.
That's right there should be a public announcement by him that he settled it with Jamie if he talked to her personally but nothing more just say you talked about it without going into more detail because it's about their private relationship and friendshiphe definitely should and hopefully had done so, but he has to share it on twitter and apologize publicly because how would people know? how would the comments towards him stop if he had not posted it?
has Jamie commented on it?
i don't know either of them personally but i think that if they had joked like that with each other before jamie wouldn't get upset the way she didI mean, maybe they had joked like that before? I mean, don´t we all use curse words in different senses? you can call someone "..." in a friendly manner though for others it might be in poor taste (but you and your friend are used to it) and you can call someone "...." and be really mean about it.
neither do I ,but sometimes people are just happy to have something to be angry about. he posted that publicly and people immediately started keyboard-fighting ... she grabbed the moment to turn the light on herself ... if she didn´t complain, people would start yelling "but how can you A WOMAN allow A MAN joke about yourself like that?" how can you betray your sisters! etc.i don't know either of them personally but i think that if they had joked like that with each other before jamie wouldn't get upset the way she did
thats what i initially thought too, but i dont think jamie would be so upset if they joke like this all the time... shes rightfully upset too; now that i actually understand what the word means it really is an awful word that should never be said by a man to describe a woman, regardless of whether they're friends or not. especially when the woman in question gets harassed all the time, like jamie.I mean, maybe they had joked like that before? I mean, don´t we all use curse words in different senses? you can call someone "..." in a friendly manner though for others it might be in poor taste (but you and your friend are used to it) and you can call someone "...." and be really mean about it. I guess, it depends on the context and how close they are.
also sometimes you can misjudge how close you and the person is and how cheeky you can be. how far you can go.
I´m not defending Jae here, I am just defending the fact that sometimes we do misjudge the situation. we are living in times when we should all learn to be on our best behaviour just because when wants to, they can get offended over everything. Jae should probably learn that too :D.
I think what he is going through is feeling " I don´t freaking care" and takes it on the wrong people as well as perhaps the right ones. I don´t know, if anyone called me like that I would not bother at all. but maybe it´s just me.thats what i initially thought too, but i dont think jamie would be so upset if they joke like this all the time... shes rightfully upset too; now that i actually understand what the word means it really is an awful word that should never be said by a man to describe a woman, regardless of whether they're friends or not. especially when the woman in question gets harassed all the time, like jamie.
mind you, i genuinely dont think he meant to degrade her or hurt her, but he really needs to filter his words and think before he speaks. this is not the first time he gets called out for his out of line remarks. it doesnt seem like hes taking the valid criticism he gets to heart, which is a shame because no one is calling him out just for the sake of cancelling him, which is what he seems to take it as.