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[Ahsoka]

So some of you may have seen my earlier thread about how stupid it is that doctors jump through hoops to find excuses not to give a woman a tubal ligation. One of the common excuses is “what if your husband/future husband wants kids” or even “what if you break up with you husband and the next one wants kids” or things of those nature. Yet when it comes to raising kids, some (yes, I know, not all) husbands act like in the situation below. So please explain to me, if you’re not taking care of them and putting effort into raising them, how exactly does your opinion on having kids or not matter at all, let alone more than the womans opinion? Even if husbands did 50% of the work, it’s still stupid to put their opinion more in consideration than the woman’s when it’s her body, but if you’re not putting any work in at all, then it’s past ridiculous. Just my two cents

 

[StirFriedPanda]

Here is my thoughts on doctors making these comments. Once the tubs get tied thats a wrap, no more kids without other medical procedures and inventro. It's not impossible to have kids becomes a lot harder and more expensive. Part of a doctors job is to help the patient make informed decisions. Lets not get in to what a hack job and biased way they are taught to do this, but it is part of the job. A job that's gotten a lot easier now that people can thankfully do their own research. But, does it do you any harm for a doctor to ask these questions? Encourage a woman to think about not just today but tomorrow as well. At the end of the day, it's still the woman's decision. It's still the woman's body. I play devils advocate all the time with myself so that I don't do something really stupid. Doesn't always work but at least I try! Both sides of information should to be considered. I don't think the idea of considering a future husbands wants and needs is a bad idea. On the flip side of the coin, I think men need to a better job of considering a future wife's wants and needs. At the end of the day marriage is a shared life. Maybe a woman makes the decision gets the procedure done and never regrets it for a second. But the opposite possibility also exists!

Lastly, and most importantly. The husband in that post is a dick and not a man. If you help create the little demons then you have every single responsibility the wife has toward them. Someone needs to bitch slap him...

 

[Ahsoka]

Here is my thoughts on doctors making these comments. Once the tubs get tied thats a wrap, no more kids without other medical procedures and inventro. It's not impossible to have kids becomes a lot harder and more expensive. Part of a doctors job is to help the patient make informed decisions. Lets not get in to what a hack job and biased way they are taught to do this, but it is part of the job. A job that's gotten a lot easier now that people can thankfully do their own research. But, does it do you any harm for a doctor to ask these questions? Encourage a woman to think about not just today but tomorrow as well. At the end of the day, it's still the woman's decision. It's still the woman's body. I play devils advocate all the time with myself so that I don't do something really stupid. Doesn't always work but at least I try! Both sides of information should to be considered. I don't think the idea of considering a future husbands wants and needs is a bad idea. On the flip side of the coin, I think men need to a better job of considering a future wife's wants and needs. At the end of the day marriage is a shared life. Maybe a woman makes the decision gets the procedure done and never regrets it for a second. But the opposite possibility also exists!

Lastly, and most importantly. The husband in that post is a dick and not a man. If you help create the little demons then you have every single responsibility the wife has toward them. Someone needs to bitch slap him...

I agree that doctors should be giving information about the procedure, risks, ect. However, some questions I don't believe are warranted. "What if your husband wants kids" is one of them. To me that implies that if you, as a woman, do not want kids, that does not matter, as long your husband does. Women shouldn't be pressured into having kids if they don't want them, because 1) most of the time, they're the ones who put the most effort and take the most care of the kids, even when they work similar hours to the father, 2) despite progress made in medicine, childbirth is at best, uncomfortable, and at worst, deadly. That's on top of the fact that a vasectomy, which is similar enough, generally requires significantly fewer questions and no permission from the partner is sought, despite being virtually the same, just the male equivalent. If they're asking women all these questions and refusing their procedures based on a categories that the women do not fit (ex. being >30, having fewer kids than they expect, ect) then why aren't the same standards being applied to men?

 

[Moguri]

whats AITA?

 

[Ahsoka]

whats AITA?

Short for "am I the asshole"

 

[Moguri]

Short for "am I the asshole"

there is a short form for everything I guess

 

[StirFriedPanda]

If they're asking women all these questions and refusing their procedures based on a categories that the women do not fit (ex. being >30, having fewer kids than they expect, ect) then why aren't the same standards being applied to men?

I 100% agree that the same conditions should exist for both men and women. The procedures should be treated the same as far as prerequisites for getting them. The only reason differences apply is old antiquated bias.

whats AITA?

Am I the Ass hole

 

[Moguri]

Am I the Ass hole

Oh I already knew

 

[StirFriedPanda]

Oh I already knew

Either you already knew "AITA" was "Am I the Asshole". Or you just called me an asshole....

 

[Selfmate]

" he went insane on me and told me I can’t just expect him to babysit "

as a father myself - YOU DO NOT BABYSIT YOUR OWN CHILDREN
one takes care of their children , one plays and enjoys spending time with one's children , one teaches one's children they are your children!!!

 

[StirFriedPanda]

" he went insane on me and told me I can’t just expect him to babysit "

as a father myself - YOU DO NOT BABYSIT YOUR OWN CHILDREN
one takes care of their children , one plays and enjoys spending time with one's children , one teaches one's children they are your children!!!

Wow, what a weird idea! It's almost like your suggest fathers are part of the "Family" unit.

 

[Selfmate]

Wow, what a weird idea! It's almost like your suggest fathers are part of the "Family" unit.

It's not an uncommon thing to hear about since I've become a father of fathers who effectively abandon the upbringing of their children to the mother...
it's sad really...