Any genres you wanna hear (more of) in K-pop? (1 Viewer)

velvet · 8 February 2023

Ptolemaea said:
here are the hyperpop ones that do include *some* breakcore (they overlap frequently), i'll unprivate my breakcore one after i edit it and send that one too!

Thank you!!! I'll check them out tonight <<3

Ptolemaea said:
anything like Ptolemaea by Ethel Cain.

waiting for anyone to be brave enough to do it (linked in sig, i'm more specifically talking about the scream moment and its buildup starting at 3:17)

Listened to the song. Felt like I was being burnt alive I love it!!!!

GOJOSWIFE · 8 February 2023

balloonvelvet said:
Thank you!!! I'll check them out tonight <<3

Listened to the song. Felt like I was being burnt alive I love it!!!!

the backstory behind the song (and the entire album is so fucking good).

only song i feel like really expresses my feminine rage towards select men LOL. because there's an element of fear there too. and the screaming of "stop" really captures that

in this song she's overdosing on the drugs a man named isaiah gave her whilst pimping her out and she's having hallucinations, she's dying.

he represents the satanic whispering voice throughout the song.

tricky · 8 February 2023

Ptolemaea said:
here are the hyperpop ones that do include *some* breakcore (they overlap frequently), i'll unprivate my breakcore one after i edit it and send that one too!

The pjsk pictures-

GOJOSWIFE · 8 February 2023

nene said:
The pjsk pictures-

IT'S HYPERPOP ESQUE OKAY

velvet · 8 February 2023

Ptolemaea said:
the backstory behind the song (and the entire album is so fucking good).

only song i feel like really expresses my feminine rage towards select men LOL. because there's an element of fear there too. and the screaming of "stop" really captures that

in this song she's overdosing on the drugs a man named isaiah gave her whilst pimping her out and she's having hallucinations, she's dying.

he represents the satanic whispering voice throughout the song.

Yeah the song reminded me with my experience of my ex, it's really good at that vulnerable feeling

Omfg that's dark but really interesting, is it from a concept album? Imma have to listen to more the artists' shit if I enjoy this so much lol

GOJOSWIFE · 8 February 2023

balloonvelvet said:
Yeah the song reminded me with my experience of my ex, it's really good at that vulnerable feeling

Omfg that's dark but really interesting, is it from a concept album? Imma have to listen to more the artists' shit if I enjoy this so much lol

i've just never heard anything like this. like the screaming and lashing out at a man who is trying to inflict harm upon you? LIKE IT'S SO YK?! the final "STOP" before it breaks into the guitar is fucking insane. it tows the line of vulnerability and rage so perfectly. i knew i had to name my username after the song instead of using my user from the other forum

from the concept album Preacher's Daughter. you can find explanations of each song on genius if you go through it in order but i could also explain it here if you want!

Jungwonie · 8 February 2023

balloonvelvet said:
That is okay I thought I'd tag you anyways cause how could I not????

velvet · 8 February 2023

Ptolemaea said:
i've just never heard anything like this. like the screaming and lashing out at a man who is trying to inflict harm upon you? LIKE IT'S SO YK?! the final "STOP" before it breaks into the guitar is fucking insane. it tows the line of vulnerability and rage so perfectly. i knew i had to name my username after the song instead of using my user from the other forum

from the concept album Preacher's Daughter. you can find explanations of each song on genius if you go through it in order but i could also explain it here if you want!

Yeah it's just so scary and anxity-inducing for me but I love it yk??? These types of songs make me vulnearable and I love it

Oh nice! I'll probably listen to it tomorrow then you can explain it to me!

GOJOSWIFE · 8 February 2023

balloonvelvet said:
Yeah it's just so scary and anxity-inducing for me but I love it yk??? These types of songs make me vulnearable and I love it

Oh nice! I'll probably listen to it tomorrow then you can explain it to me!

hold on imma make this so easy for you

ichigohon · 8 February 2023

balloonvelvet said:
I'd love to hear more disco stuff but not the 'say so' slow disco shit yk. Less weekend by taeyeon more love dovey by tara please!

Oh yeah more T-Ara vibes 105%

GOJOSWIFE · 8 February 2023

@balloonvelvet

Ethel's explanation:
“The story centers around three generations of women, and it starts with the youngest, the daughter. It’s pretty much just a classic American tale. A common theme that I like to write about is intergenerational trauma. Things that have been passed down through generations and how your parents’ or your grandparents’ actions can affect you. It’s very much about this lineage of women and how all their lives interconnect. Each album focuses on a different woman. I want to explore how your actions affect others and the relationship between a mother and her child and how things come full circle."

"Overall, it’s definitely a cautionary tale of what happens if you don’t break a cycle and you let it continue to almost a ruinous point. It’s what I see as a dark timeline of what would happen if everything hit its lowest point. So it’s very much bittersweet [and] like a melodrama. This first record is about this girl who is dealing with things from her past that her family has led her to being involved in and her trying to find a place in the world and break out of it. It’s going to be a big epic centered around her.“

Meaning:
OH HEY IT'S MY SIG!!!! Family Tree (Intro) sets the stage for the 76 minute epic that is Preacher’s Daughter. Over 13 tracks we learn the story of Ethel Cain. Set in 1991, the album details the character’s troubled relationship with religion, her old flame, her father (the titular preacher, a beloved member of the community even 10 years after his death), and her eventual kidnapping and murder.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-family-tree-intro-lyrics

Meaning:
Storywise, this song is a summary of Ethel's current life as an American teenager. Fun fact: this made it onto Obama's end of the year favorites!

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-american-teenager-lyrics

Meaning:
Ethel thinks of her ex-lover, Willoughby Tucker, who left town before the events of the album. She remembers the good times they shared and longs for him to come back home. She visits the abandoned house they would spend time in, imagining it was their own, somewhere far away from their hometown of Shady Grove, Alabama. THIS SONG IS SO FUCKING GOOD. LISTENING TO IT IN ITS ENTIRETY IS A TREAT.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-a-house-in-nebraska-lyrics

Meaning:
Western Nights tells the story of Ethel and her new man, Logan Phelps. Logan is less than kind, at times violent, but Ethel finds herself hopelessly in love with him despite his faults.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-western-nights-lyrics

Meaning:
One of my favorite songs. After the death of her boyfriend Logan in a police shootout following a bank robbery, Ethel finds herself on the run from the cops. Things get worse when she discovers a disturbing family secret, forcing her to confront her past and the true nature of her relationship with her father.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-family-tree-lyrics

Meaning:
Closing out Act One of the album, Hard Times sees Ethel reflecting on the SA she endured from her father when she was a child, and the complicated feelings she has in regards to him.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-hard-times-lyrics

Meaning:
Act Two of the album begins with Thoroughfare. Ethel, having run away from home, meets charming Isaiah, who offers her a ride. Together, they drive from Texas to California. Over the course of their trip, they find themselves attracted to one another.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-thoroughfare-lyrics

Meaning:
This song is so CVNTY!!!! IN MY TOP 5 FOR SURE!!! IT IS HAWTTTT (without the context): After Ethel arrives in California with Isaiah, he begins to pimp her out in the back of strip clubs and feed her drugs on the regular. Ethel begins to lose sense of reality. The title refers to Charles Dana Gibson and the women he famously drew, often considered the pinnacle of American beauty standards.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-gibson-girl-lyrics

Meaning:
AH YES, THE SONG THAT INSPIRED MY USERNAME. FEMININE RAGE AND VULNERABILITY AT ITS PINNACLE. THE SCREAM IS SO ICONIC IT'S WHAT MADE ME A FAN. STOP....STOP.... STOP... STOPPPPPPPPPPP!!! YESSSS. ANYWAYS..... Under the influence of Isaiah’s drugs, Ethel begins to hallucinate. She confronts the darkness. The song name is inspired from Alighieri’s Divine Comedy [specifically Dante’s Inferno] Ptolemea, named after Ptolemy, is a circle of Hell in which the traitorous reside. Maybe this is a reference to Ethel abandoning her family and faith – only to be met with a wrath far worse.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-ptolemaea-lyrics

Meaning:
Ethel wastes away in the attic of an abandoned shack in the woods of northern California. As Isaiah reveals his truest nature, she accepts her fate and faces the end. The title is a reference to the infamous snuff film of the same name.

Lyrics: none, instrumental

Meaning:
Ethel’s death and ascension to Heaven is portrayed through piano and ambient noise.

Lyrics: none, instrumental

Meaning:
I cannot make it through this song without hysterically crying. God help me. THE LINE "GOD LOVES YOU, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO SAVE YOU".....IN MY TOP 5!!! In Heaven, Ethel makes peace with her death, and reflects on her life, her family, and the man she never stopped loving, Willoughby.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-sun-bleached-flies-lyrics

Meaning:
My god this song is so beautiful, ethereal vocals. Murdered and cannibalized by Isaiah, Ethel says her final goodbye to her mother from beyond the grave.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-strangers-lyrics

velvet · 8 February 2023

Ptolemaea said:
@balloonvelvet

Ethel's explanation:
“The story centers around three generations of women, and it starts with the youngest, the daughter. It’s pretty much just a classic American tale. A common theme that I like to write about is intergenerational trauma. Things that have been passed down through generations and how your parents’ or your grandparents’ actions can affect you. It’s very much about this lineage of women and how all their lives interconnect. Each album focuses on a different woman. I want to explore how your actions affect others and the relationship between a mother and her child and how things come full circle."

"Overall, it’s definitely a cautionary tale of what happens if you don’t break a cycle and you let it continue to almost a ruinous point. It’s what I see as a dark timeline of what would happen if everything hit its lowest point. So it’s very much bittersweet [and] like a melodrama. This first record is about this girl who is dealing with things from her past that her family has led her to being involved in and her trying to find a place in the world and break out of it. It’s going to be a big epic centered around her.“

Meaning:
OH HEY IT'S MY SIG!!!! Family Tree (Intro) sets the stage for the 76 minute epic that is Preacher’s Daughter. Over 13 tracks we learn the story of Ethel Cain. Set in 1991, the album details the character’s troubled relationship with religion, her old flame, her father (the titular preacher, a beloved member of the community even 10 years after his death), and her eventual kidnapping and murder.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-family-tree-intro-lyrics

Meaning:
Storywise, this song is a summary of Ethel's current life as an American teenager. Fun fact: this made it onto Obama's end of the year favorites!

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-american-teenager-lyrics

Meaning:
Ethel thinks of her ex-lover, Willoughby Tucker, who left town before the events of the album. She remembers the good times they shared and longs for him to come back home. She visits the abandoned house they would spend time in, imagining it was their own, somewhere far away from their hometown of Shady Grove, Alabama. THIS SONG IS SO FUCKING GOOD. LISTENING TO IT IN ITS ENTIRETY IS A TREAT.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-a-house-in-nebraska-lyrics

Meaning:
Western Nights tells the story of Ethel and her new man, Logan Phelps. Logan is less than kind, at times violent, but Ethel finds herself hopelessly in love with him despite his faults.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-western-nights-lyrics

Meaning:
One of my favorite songs. After the death of her boyfriend Logan in a police shootout following a bank robbery, Ethel finds herself on the run from the cops. Things get worse when she discovers a disturbing family secret, forcing her to confront her past and the true nature of her relationship with her father.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-family-tree-lyrics

Meaning:
Closing out Act One of the album, Hard Times sees Ethel reflecting on the SA she endured from her father when she was a child, and the complicated feelings she has in regards to him.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-hard-times-lyrics

Meaning:
Act Two of the album begins with Thoroughfare. Ethel, having run away from home, meets charming Isaiah, who offers her a ride. Together, they drive from Texas to California. Over the course of their trip, they find themselves attracted to one another.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-thoroughfare-lyrics

Meaning:
This song is so CVNTY!!!! IN MY TOP 5 FOR SURE!!! IT IS HAWTTTT (without the context): After Ethel arrives in California with Isaiah, he begins to pimp her out in the back of strip clubs and feed her drugs on the regular. Ethel begins to lose sense of reality. The title refers to Charles Dana Gibson and the women he famously drew, often considered the pinnacle of American beauty standards.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-gibson-girl-lyrics

Meaning:
AH YES, THE SONG THAT INSPIRED MY USERNAME. FEMININE RAGE AND VULNERABILITY AT ITS PINNACLE. THE SCREAM IS SO ICONIC IT'S WHAT MADE ME A FAN. STOP....STOP.... STOP... STOPPPPPPPPPPP!!! YESSSS. ANYWAYS..... Under the influence of Isaiah’s drugs, Ethel begins to hallucinate. She confronts the darkness. The song name is inspired from Alighieri’s Divine Comedy [specifically Dante’s Inferno] Ptolemea, named after Ptolemy, is a circle of Hell in which the traitorous reside. Maybe this is a reference to Ethel abandoning her family and faith – only to be met with a wrath far worse.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-ptolemaea-lyrics

Meaning:
Ethel wastes away in the attic of an abandoned shack in the woods of northern California. As Isaiah reveals his truest nature, she accepts her fate and faces the end. The title is a reference to the infamous snuff film of the same name.

Lyrics: none, instrumental

Meaning:
Ethel’s death and ascension to Heaven is portrayed through piano and ambient noise.

Lyrics: none, instrumental

Meaning:
I cannot make it through this song without hysterically crying. God help me. THE LINE "GOD LOVES YOU, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO SAVE YOU".....IN MY TOP 5!!! In Heaven, Ethel makes peace with her death, and reflects on her life, her family, and the man she never stopped loving, Willoughby.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-sun-bleached-flies-lyrics

Meaning:
My god this song is so beautiful, ethereal vocals. Murdered and cannibalized by Isaiah, Ethel says her final goodbye to her mother from beyond the grave.

Lyrics: https://genius.com/Ethel-cain-strangers-lyrics

Holy fuck this is a lot!!!! I'll start it tonight, it sounds really interesting. Thank you <<3

GOJOSWIFE · 8 February 2023

balloonvelvet said:
Holy fuck this is a lot!!!! I'll start it tonight, it sounds really interesting. Thank you <<3

she's so fucking good. next big thing for sure. lmk your thoughts on each!!! and np of course <3333

Myth · 8 February 2023

Oh! You know what I love? I love it when groups mix traditional elements in songs but give it this modern flavor. Stuff like Oneus - Luna, ateez - the real, stray kids - thunderous, and Monsta X - Crescendo are so good, and I would love more of that.

I know kingdom also does music like this a lot as well. Maybe we can see more gg do this kind of thing? And see other different ways of exploring it perhaps? I think there is so much untapped potential.

Myth · 8 February 2023

also synthwave??? Ateez - cyberpunk and key kind of dabbled with it in his last album. Dreamcatcher - Vision had some synthwavey elements there. I'm a sucker for it.