This is how Survival shows work (3 Viewers)

[gone4good]

The other thing That they all seem to do is assign a song then the kids have 1 maybe 2 days too put it together for the first check.
ofc most of them SUCK because people are out of position and learning maybe its a different language ect.
but the skilled teams usually pull it together, because they are skilled duh...
Some times by dress rehearsal they are still in trouble, but rarely are they awful.

My top issue is the number of assigned songs that are nowhere near they type of group they are going to make.
or the super pandering to the girl crush fans.
I would be ecstatic if there was never another bp song for example. That style is nowhere near what any group from one of the shows have gone for.

very good points!

 

[gone4good]

I remember how on No Mercy (the Monsta X survival show) they were close to the end (so some eliminations had already happened) and the show was suddenly like hey! Guess what! We’re randomly bringing in a new member! Have fun and if you got eliminated already sucks to be you! I still don’t get what they were aiming for there.

my point, exactly!

 

[gone4good]

this is something i strongly agree with though. the initial stages are obviously a set up for like everyone involved. having kang hyewon cover good day, or bak doha cover my house, is nothing but a set up.

the signal song checks too get me. the songs are too high pitched imo, and to expect them to sing that while dancing when most idols these days usually have some sort of vocal support (not saying 100% lipsync but y'know, some support, not 100% live either)? impossible. in boys planet you had vocal mentor onestar scold bak doha, a 0 star (or f class) contestant a baritone who had 0 idol training prior to the show as an acting trainee, telling him that he can't just sing low pitched stuff all the time and that he had to sing high at some point... when the song in question is absolutely comfortable for me, a girl, to sing... but then most boy group songs are written so that their female fans can sing along to them. that system imo kinda sucks to me.

that said... bak doha was anyway there just for shits and giggles mnet didn't really care, which is why you have onestar, a reputed vocal coach who has worked with exo and onf, two bgs known for their singing prowess, just straight up scold someone for not being able to sing. which is as crazy as a reputed math teacher scolding someone who dropped out of school in 8th grade for not being able to do trigonometry. it's all scripted bs, all in mnet's hands.

and yes the assigned songs are always horrible, if mnet include a bp song in the next instalment of planet istg i will show up with protest trucks

I mean, in the end, they are what the show decides to make them look as! Between the evil edits and the not so-friendly camera angles, they also lower the volume on the main tracks to make them look even more pathetic when they have to. Believe it or not, I've noticed that!

 

[alo]

I mean, in the end, they are what the show decides to make them look as! Between the evil edits and the not so-friendly camera angles, they also lower the volume on the main tracks to make them look even more pathetic when they have to. Believe it or not, I've noticed that!

oh they do that all the time, all. the. time.

 

[Moguri]

like i said, in in-house shows like sixteen and finding momoland (where it's based on one company and their trainees), it's 1000% all pre-decided

I diagree that its as decided as you say. Ofc for the most part, the company has a clear idea, as those trainees may have trained there for many years already (at least in the past, nowadays not so much anymore). But the surivial show still adds other elements, that can be taken into account, e.g. public perception of the trainees or singing in front of a big audience. So if some trainees do expecintally well or bad in that regard, the opinions can change. I think Minyoung from Sixteen is a good exampel for a candidate that was set, but lost her spot during the show, while others that were not the agencies favorites at the start, made the group in the end.

 

[Moguri]

that's not a survival show! That's old man JYP picking up a bunch of teens in the states to glorify himself! lmaooo

sorry but, no bs with me hun! No disrespect to you! You're an Angel and you know that! <33

Its true that he and the show glorifies him and the agency a lot.

I'm not sure why this means that its not a surivial show and bs..

 

[gone4good]

Its true that he and the show glorifies him and the agency a lot.

I'm not sure why this means that its not a surivial show and bs..

because you don't pay 100K+ of airfares and accommodations to fly teens across the globe if you don't have a clue what you're doin' to begin with! Parent's have to sign off on this, insurance, translators, health coverage, and so on and so forth.

so yeah, survival but everyone will "survive" their vacations!

 

[Moguri]

because you don't pay 100K+ of airfares and accommodations to fly teens across the globe if you don't have a clue what you're doin' to begin with! Parent's have to sign off on this, insurance, translators, health coverage, and so on and so forth.

so yeah, survival but everyone will "survive" their vacations!

its true that eliminating contestants is not a strong focus of the show, the 11 girls that made it through the audition and took part in the american bootcamp, were all told by JYP that everyone can make it to korea

and the girls who actually made it, got told that they are all set to debut, its up to them to keep their spot in the group

So at least they are not misleading about that or trying to create fake drama.

Also due to this, the girls are always encouraged to support each other and work together, I really like that!

 

[gone4good]

its true that eliminating contestants is not a strong focus of the show, the 11 girls that made it through the audition and took part in the american bootcamp, were all told by JYP that everyone can make it to korea

and the girls who actually made it, got told that they are all set to debut, its up to them to keep their spot in the group

So at least they are not misleading about that or trying to create fake drama.

Also due to this, the girls are always encouraged to support each other and work together, I really like that!

Enjoy the show hun <3 and thanks for the clarifications!

 

[Moguri]

Enjoy the show hun <3 and thanks for the clarifications!

thanks, I do!

 

[gone4good]

thanks, I do!

sorry for being so negative. Again, it obviously has nothing to do with you! you're the sweetest ever!

 

[athenaaa]

You summed up R U Next in a few simple sentences

 

[motorp77]

tldr pls

 

[Moguri]

sorry for being so negative. Again, it obviously has nothing to do with you! you're the sweetest ever!

Its all good!

 

[gone4good]

tldr pls

mods aren't lazy! you're obviously over your head with your wishful thinking! lmaoo

 

[Moguri]

tldr pls

lazy!!

 

[motorp77]

mods aren't lazy! you're obviously over you head with your wishful thinking! lmaoo

soldiers should do concise posts

 

[motorp77]

lazy!!

i have more posts in the last 5 minutes than you

 

[gone4good]

soldiers should do concise posts

 

[motorp77]

what if you just swim to south africa ? impressive