Do you think not voting for Jonghyun on charts and votes is morally wrong? (1 Viewer)

[Myco]

I had a conversation about this recently where we discussed if it would be "distasteful" to vote against him for votes like "Best Artist" or something of this kind.

For me, it would still be up to the music. While I do respect Jonghyun and know he was an amazing artist, I never really was much into his music, so if he was against someone whose music I liked more I would vote for that idol/artist.

I do think that Jonghyun deserves all the love he gets but I feel like some are using this as an excuse to hate on people who don't vote for him.

What would you do/think about this?

 

[maruberry]

saying you have to vote for someone because theyare dead is not logical.

You can respect his memory, but still think singer B is a better solo artist! It is up to taste! Not everybody likes his music and the fact that he is dead doesn't make his music any different from what it is.

 

[VillageIdiot]

I don't think its wrong.
I think its a really touching way of supporting and honoring him when people vote for his work but it isn't a necessity to do so.
At the end of the day, we still have our own faves, preferences and people we feel deserve it.
There's nothing to be faulted or tasteless about that

 

[Peach]

This in relation to Ultimate Male K-Pop bias voting that recently ran on /r/kpop and the two finalists are Taemin and Jonghyun. We don't know the winner yet but a lot of people said they can't vote for Taemin. I even saw some people saying: I am sorry Taemin even though you're my UB. And it made me feel bad? Is this guilt tripping? I honestly would rather not vote at all than be judged in case someone finds it morally wrong. I have always thought of Jonghyun as a great person, his death was a tragic loss to K-pop but in SHINee I've always liked Taemin better yet I feel like it's wrong for me to vote for Taemin even though I'm emotionally more invested in him. When it was Heechul and Jonghyun, I voted for Heechul but am I an asshole, am I an insensitive person for doing this? I feel like everyone just automatically assume we don't respect him. :/

 

[baekk]

I actually like Jonghyun, I have been a fan of him since SHINee's debut but I would never hate on people who don't vote for him.

 

[taemkitten]

Being someone that loves to honor him with trying to win awards in his name, for him, I still think that it should come down to personal preference and that nobody should be guilt tripped or made to feel they did something horrible or immoral. At the end of the day, he's already won awards on his own merit, and while it's a nice gesture, he already knew how much fans supported and loved him before his passing (and I'm sure wherever he is still knows and sees how much people care about him and support him, even if they aren't voting for him in a contest or award voting deal).

Winning awards isn't the be all end all - and groups like SHINee, and the members individually, have proven this time and time again. They have all been against groups that (in my personal opinion) were lesser in terms of talents but still easily beat them for awards for whatever reason you can throw to stick at a wall (popularity, hype, bandwagon, fandom size, different tastes in music etc). It doesn't mean those that won it are "more deserving" of the award, nor does it mean that not winning the award somehow puts down those that haven't won (and on the same token, it doesn't mean that those that won didn't deserve it or earn it, etc).

Winning awards is just a physical manifestation of "you have a lot of backing" regardless of music quality or the people making the music.

That all aside, it's really horrible to make someone feel guilty, to hate on them, or label them as immoral or messed up for not voting for someone, solely on the principle that they have passed away and "we should get them an award!" Sure, Jonghyun's got amazing music and I personally vote for him 9/10 (though in the case of having to vote for him or Taemin, I will be sitting out, because I don't usually vote anyway and for me personally it always has felt weird when two solo members of the same group are up against one another), but that doesn't mean others will agree with me - and just because he's eligible for something at the same time others are doesn't mean that the others should be shut out simply because "well he's passed and we will ignore the chance for others to get it because of this" - no. I feel he would never have appreciated a "sympathy" award (even if it's not out of sympathy but to honor him in a way) - if someone wants to honor him, support him, show the love? Donate to his mother and sister's charity they created in his name to help youth similar to him, "Shiny Foundation."

Voting for who you feel is the best or who you enjoy the most is what matters in these types of things. Quality does not matter. Music styles do not matter. These are all things that are different for each of us, and as such will lead us to vote differently - you shouldn't feel obligated to vote for someone based solely on a dark day in his 27 years of life.

On the same breath, it's a sweet gesture and one that I support if someone wants to do it. I know I've pushed to try getting those that weren't planning on voting, or that were Shawols to vote for him in order to try winning him an award that I still feel he deserves (for his music, not for the circumstance that occurred). But I won't make those that don't feel that they are somehow in the wrong.

Sorry that was long. I just feel very heavily in matters such as this.
God rest his amazing soul.

 

[blueberries]

I feel like the award loses it's meaning if it's not voted for music or artist, what I mean that the award is achieved from the competition which brings it's worth.

Of course there is then awards that are given specifically for person for their achievements, but then those achievements are the reason for the price.

So no, I don't think not voting for Jonghyun is morally wrong. If you think he's best artist then you should vote for him. And if you have some other reason to vote for him, sure that's your decision, but others shouldn't be bullied for not voting someone.

 

[spicy_illusion]

For me of course not, if he goes up against Dreamcatcher or any one of the Dreamcatcher girls, I'm voting for them lol

 

[kuro]

For me of course not, if he goes up against Dreamcatcher or any one of the Dreamcatcher girls, I'm voting for them lol

 

[amourpinks]

no i dont think its wrong. jonghyun was an amazing artist and his death was truly a big loss for kpop and the music industry in general. but you shouldnt have to vote for him because he unfortunately died. i honestly dont think that any artist would want an award because they died and not because people actually thought their music was good.

 

[Evergreen]

I voted for Jonghyun but because I wanted to, his music have always been amazing.

It’s alright to vote for someone else if you know that deep down in your heart, you want to vote for another artist.

 

[spicy_illusion]

I just realised the poor guy passed away!
So insensitive of me.
Sorry!

 

[kuro]

I just realised the poor guy passed away!
So insensitive of me.
Sorry!