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she 99% beefed with hybe over this so I'm interested :wimwim:
wait i lowkey was a genius for this that was a joke but seeing the current situation now... gifted by apollo fr that time
 

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me aka LSM - I got rid of her for a reason and now she's causing no end of problems for Hybe lol
well she wanted to leave and told sm that she'd quit anyways then was all surprised pikachu when they didn't fire her so she left on her own

I still think the initial contracts drafted and signed must've been terrible because everything seems to have fallen apart the moment she finished the bighit to hybe rebrand
 
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well she wanted to leave and told sm that she'd quit anyways then was all surprised pikachu when they didn't fire her so she left on her own

I still think the initial contracts drafted and signed must've been terrible because everything seems to have fallen apart the moment she finished the bighit to hybe rebrand
the ADOR contracts or the bighit ones?
 
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the ADOR contracts or the bighit ones?
the initial one because they seem to have gotten her on board for two purposes: the hybe rebrand, then to launch hybe's first gg (lol)

ador was never supposed to be in the plan because that first hybe gg was pgngg then things fell through, she was given ador, and she brought over her work for pgngg over to ador with all the staff she brought from sm

that things got so bad they had to straight up spin off an entire subsidiary for her is crazy, much less the whole mess of her finding out they got kkura via news outlets

like things should not have gotten that bad, and i think there was serious oversight in expectations and the level of management support they were expecting of each other
 
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the initial one because they seem to have gotten her on board for two purposes: the hybe rebrand, then to launch hybe's first gg (lol)

ador was never supposed to be in the plan because that first hybe gg was pgngg then things fell through, she was given ador, and she brought over her work for pgngg over to ador with all the staff she brought from sm

that things got so bad they had to straight up spin off an entire subsidiary for her is crazy, much less the whole mess of her finding out they got kkura via news outlets

like things should not have gotten that bad, and i think there was serious oversight in expectations and the level of management support they were expecting of each other
from a purely business perspective it all worked out in the end no?
both NJ and LSFM and even Illit are very successful

the question is were they aware of MHJ's character and personality in the beginning...
 
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from a purely business perspective it all worked out in the end no?
both NJ and LSFM and even Illit are very successful

the question is were they aware of MHJ's character and personality in the beginning...
I haven't checked the financials so I'm not sure from that perspective but it's true that the groups are at least selling well, but I'm not sure how it compares to the costs of the pgngg into ador and source split or even the series of acquisitions before: in m&a accounting standards all integration costs only end after three years, and hybe went on an acquisition spree worthy of big tech

I have no love for mhj and I find her obsession with minji weird, don't get me wrong, but her presscon story has been consistent with what has been said in her pre-newjeans interview and the timeline between pgngg, the contract signings for all lsfm members, and the general rumours at the time; and that it has nothing to do with character or personality
in that sense I don't think she was wrong per se, and she does seem to have been double crossed especially with the treatment of predebut newjeans promotions; in the very least, the "sakura personally scouted by mhj" and "sakura's an odd choice of muse by mhj but good for her" was a huge thing when she was announced to have signed a contract into hybe general
I honestly think mhj thought everyone was going to give her the freedom lsm gave her (remember, as tight as her budget was, she has been there since 2002) and somehow didn't think that all those verbal confirmations could be broken or that the support would be conditional
at the end of the day I think it's just a battle between egos, and that the law firms must be making good money now
 
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I haven't checked the financials so I'm not sure from that perspective but it's true that the groups are at least selling well, but I'm not sure how it compares to the costs of the pgngg into ador and source split or even the series of acquisitions before: in m&a accounting standards all integration costs only end after three years, and hybe went on an acquisition spree worthy of big tech

I have no love for mhj and I find her obsession with minji weird, don't get me wrong, but her presscon story has been consistent with what has been said in her pre-newjeans interview and the timeline between pgngg, the contract signings for all lsfm members, and the general rumours at the time; and that it has nothing to do with character or personality
in that sense I don't think she was wrong per se, and she does seem to have been double crossed especially with the treatment of predebut newjeans promotions; in the very least, the "sakura personally scouted by mhj" and "sakura's an odd choice of muse by mhj but good for her" was a huge thing when she was announced to have signed a contract into hybe general
I honestly think mhj thought everyone was going to give her the freedom lsm gave her (remember, as tight as her budget was, she has been there since 2002) and somehow didn't think that all those verbal confirmations could be broken or that the support would be conditional
at the end of the day I think it's just a battle between egos, and that the law firms must be making good money now
I said the groups are successful - obviously there's a cost of debuting and M&A and all that so I don't know if they are yet profitable but in NJ's case it was mentioned that the NJ members each got like $5m USD or something...

I didn't really know much about her prior to this ordeal since I wasn't a fan of hybe or even of NJ and the only group I care about within hybe is LSFM

As I said to one loveyoushasha - have you ever watched the Chinese movies Infernal Affairs or the western remake the departed?
 
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I said the groups are successful - obviously there's a cost of debuting and M&A and all that so I don't know if they are yet profitable but in NJ's case it was mentioned that the NJ members each got like $5m USD or something...

I didn't really know much about her prior to this ordeal since I wasn't a fan of hybe or even of NJ and the only group I care about within hybe is LSFM

As I said to one loveyoushasha - have you ever watched the Chinese movies Infernal Affairs or the western remake the departed?
I included the costs because those are important factors of business, since it doesn't matter how much market share something has if they're still losing money; the bubble pops at some point when the earnings aren't there as underlying fundamentals to the business valuation

honestly I don't even think I'm that into kpop now in general, but this whole situation has been something on my radar for roughly two years now so that's my main motivation to keep up with everything, it's all for the corporate drama because I don't think anyone has waged as a public a campaign as them? not even the recent disney coups compare and that was basically two attempts back to back
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I watched internal affairs but not the departed
 
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I included the costs because those are important factors of business, since it doesn't matter how much market share something has if they're still losing money; the bubble pops at some point when the earnings aren't there as underlying fundamentals to the business valuation

honestly I don't even think I'm that into kpop now in general, but this whole situation has been something on my radar for roughly two years now so that's my main motivation to keep up with everything, it's all for the corporate drama because I don't think anyone has waged as a public a campaign as them? not even the recent disney coups compare and that was basically two attempts back to back
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I watched internal affairs but not the departed
of course it's very important but it seems NJ is profitable (at least the operating profit)

the rest of us are like come for the music stay for the drama - whereas mysteric is like I come for the drama and stay for even more



lol

then if remember the plot of infernal affairs I liken it to this situation

LSM secretly send MHJ to destroy Hybe from within
Bang PD secretly bribed Chris Lee to take down LSM!!! lol
 
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of course it's very important but it seems NJ is profitable (at least the operating profit)

the rest of us are like come for the music stay for the drama - whereas mysteric is like I come for the drama and stay for even more



lol

then if remember the plot of infernal affairs I liken it to this situation

LSM secretly send MHJ to destroy Hybe from within
Bang PD secretly bribed Chris Lee to take down LSM!!! lol
I mean seeing as to how they seem to still be on good terms (she spoke pretty favourably of him in the presscon) that would be hilarious
the alternate universe where lsm and hybe's plan to push out kakao to take over sm would've been hilarious to watch go down too
 
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I mean seeing as to how they seem to still be on good terms (she spoke pretty favourably of him in the presscon) that would be hilarious
the alternate universe where lsm and hybe's plan to push out kakao to take over sm would've been hilarious to watch go down too
I said it in the main thread

1000 of the best kdrama writers couldn't come up with this stuff lol
 
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I said it in the main thread

1000 of the best kdrama writers couldn't come up with this stuff lol
succession seemed pretty crazy but it was basically a documentary series in everything but name of the murdochs, though I hear it's rings true for a ton of family corporates too
reality is stranger than fiction
 
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