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It wouldn't have been HYBE that made them up...

The point is, we hear reports of evidence from text messages being rejected from court - and hence, were not actually seen outside of the core people involved in the case, and then some youtuber starts presenting them on his channel (at least, that's my understanding of where these came from)...

I think maybe you mentioned the first in the twitter links? But they're dead, or don't work for me... The chat records were rejected as evidence and were not seen by anyone outside the legal parties and the judge, from my understanding.

What's the sexual predator thing? I can see the text messages but I'm not sure if I can believe them, because if HYBE were not allowed to present them, how did they get out there? Well, I suppose they could have leaked them deliberately, which is low af... I dunno. I wonder if a legit news...

Wow. If the investor stuff is true, her goose is truly cooked. I don't understand why HYBE keeps blabbing about other stuff when they have the smoking gun right there. I can sympathise with the judge lollol The bulk buying thing is juicy, innit? Did she provide proof...

Looking promising

I think the first snippet of I Got You was released in December. That's the month I started paying attention to the comeback, anyway, even though I had checked out for the two years prior.

I can't parse what is being said through the translation tbh. IE, I can't figure out what their excuse was for meeting with investors.

The second half of this is one of my favourite pieces of music of all time, and I don't even like Merzbow! Skip to about fifteen minutes!

I uh... I only liked the Felix song on the last album :runrunrun:

Just noticed there's a song called Butterflies @fdonce

Pdogg and GHSTLOOP??? I am suddenly interested.

It's interesting, I always assumed LSM was extremely controlling, but he managed to have MHJ working for him for years without any public blow-ups. I can imagine that Yoo Young-jin and Kenzie also commanded a lot of clout without that causing an issue. Was I wrong about him???

Dystopian.

Haven't bought physical in literal years but here https://www.discogs.com/user/gramsci/collection

I think the important thing to remember though is that the main battleground is in the court of public opinion. For some reason. I don't understand what either side hopes to gain by having the public on "their side", but that's clearly the driving force for a lot of what is happening. I mean...

Right. The suggestion seems to be, "HYBE thought Ador would make it public, so they went first" But that's like saying, "I thought you were going to punch me in the face, so I punched myself there first." I've seen it suggested that they had to disclose for legal reasons. Different countries...

Strong disagree here. Firstly, it isn't "rent" as far as I can tell but a down payment, or a deposit. IE, it is not a regular monthly expense, but a one-off expense that would have to be fortuitously timed as an alibi. Totally inconceivable. Secondly, the "insider information", according to...

The timeline is confusing to me though, so maybe you can map it out in a more clear way? Because there's a potential contradiction in her account based on when Ador was formed. MHJ claimed in her press conference that when Le Sserafim were announced for debut, there was doubt that NewJeans...