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I do not think they had the numbers. EXO was 12 right and RV was a rushed 14. If they had wanted a big gg they would have kept the 3 WJSN girls and the twice girls sister ect. Also SNSD were still huge pre the Jessica event. If they were going big then the adding a unit rumor may have been...

The vocals were so good sm kept em on and they were in house vocal coaches for snsd ect. Taeyeon and Jessica got advanced lessons from out side. Lina, Dana, Sunday, Stephanie they were the female TVXQ. Stephanie the Dancer(classically trained ballet and street hip hop) won 5 times...

I think at best they would end up with something RV/ MMM popularity. As a company they are the most dance focused. I can not seem them dropping the in house dance standard. They tried a crazy good female vocal group The Grace it crashed and burned. The Grace was MMM baring rap with a crazy...

Joy has a tone/color that folks really like, but it leans to trot/folk. MMM is the exception vocal only groups have not done well. Spica, Bestie, heck BEG had to go hard /sexy and still they were mid tier.

That is almost RV its just their #3 is not quite as good as mmm although Rv are far better dancers. At least RV are required to dance more even having choro for OOTN. The market for vocal only is so narrow they have to add dancers. Zero of RV's pure vocal tracks have done well in Korea...

Its especially dumb since they sell pop music. That demo is and always been young kids mostly female. (and both Korea and Japan have awful birth rates and a aging pop) You gotta have some thing new because if you are not moving ahead in any business you are falling behind.(Grow or die)...

Yep this is why folks are soooo antsy, and there is all the drama. It is by far the longest SM has gone between groups. They did some groups in the early 2000's that failed but that was a bit more about the market just being crazy hard especially for girls. SNSD was successful and had blown...

Aug 1, 2014 Their contract is up they are in year 7 now. Folks are busy pushing Irene in to her grave because she will be 30 next year.

The real problem is the longer they delay the worse it will be for the kids. The amount of pressure will be stupid. if they do not have BP like debut numbers folks will be so on the flop train it will make RV and NCT look like rainbows and unicorns. And they won't because that has never...

A gold mine like this does not come around often. Milk every drop of cash ya can out of it.

At this point i am really starting to wonder if the chick in charge really is behind the girls at all. At least 23 boys have debuted every bg is super represented with releases this year, sure exo is sub units or solos but a chunk are in the army and that plays with stuff. So even in the...

I am sure her other soul mate agrees

Hmmmmmmm Looking at my stan list... Pretty girls who can sing and dance well

Nice favorites for me will all gg, no bg would make the top 10 maybe not top 20.

I much more prefer this

Honestly if i wasnt interested already i never would have made it to the fun parts 2 min is a long time. I am counting on the live being much more fun. Putting the name tags was nice since they are still rookies.

Its funny but those Hair colors for the girls are really nice, maybe not super into that brite red for Yuri. funny in that its an eye add :)

True Sooyoung's birthday is feb 10 90 but.. that year it was before the new year so she is a late 89 ie her friends/school mates are 89's, Where as Seulgi with the same birthdate was after the new year and is thus a 94 line. That took me forever to under stand. So i tend to drop all 7 as...

Irene is march 29 1991 Yeri is march 5 1999 so almost 8 years similar to Victoria to Krystal.(feb 2, 1987 to oct 24 94) similar in i think vic was 86 line, but Suili(march 29 (same day as Irene btw ) and Krystal were 15, 14 at debut and Yeri was 16. Wendy and Seulgi are both Feb (10...

meant that to be a reply..... ^^^^^^^