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first gen ends 02 with finkl and ses. 2nd gen 02 -09 2009 - 2014 3rd gen 2 of the big 3 dropped a new group that year. fx rainbow 21 miss a in 2010 4th gen 2014 new rv mmm lovelyz

2014 -15 for girls :) in my world any way 5th gen will be when ever yg, sm or big hit drop a new gg. (but i would say 19 is good enough)

Shinee over all has never sold crazy 2-300k seems to be the number. Taemin is actually the highest. at 50-120k ish poet sold 200k + but ... well his other stuff was also 70-90

Well if they did a gg collab and called it generational girls that feels about the same disrespect.

There was an article that mentioned nct us.

Super in the context of SM is REALLY hyper SJ imprinted. I dont really care about the name as a name just that is obviously associated with the wrong SM act. Hell if bulletproof boy scouts can be what they are names mean @#$@# all. Where is that A n R guy ... can we talk some more.

Music core is still live only and i thought music bank moved that way. Although i think they all still fake the bands because of that crap a decade ago.

in the apartment? ouch

The girl on the left looks like Yein. yea ill look to find her name to be nice... Yeonhee is what i am going with :) I like the song far more than the video.

See this is exactly why i say never ever do high level collabs within kpop using 3gen or new groups. The fans just will not accept it even year end one offs get a ton of crap. To your point at the end of the day NCT U could do this just pulling from NCT units. All taemin and the exo kids...

amazing is not the word i would choose :)

Count Hyewon a a J vote then its 8/4 because she made it mostly on her interaction with the j line. This is close to the correct participation split given that 5 trainees quit the show. The problem was 6 /6 was not the right split really ever. 7/5 , 8/4 is what should have been projected...

girl at 38 is really pretty.

He is a 11 year senior and had solo tours. ofc he is center.

i do not change my mind unless i judged off the video because i did not see the performance for some time after the song. I really try to avoid that holding off until i see them liveish. Why is about it I was super busy and didn't see a live for about a month after the video which i disliked...

90 - 100 kpop if i do listen to English stuff its retro and just a nights cruising YT.

Ag greed but both winner and Ikon did it i think actually never having heard the songs :) NCT is a Mess Spin it how ever they want they have a collection of tier 2 bg and they are pretty locked in to that. BTS is global and out of the picture their own level EXO is while not bts sold ~ 2...

Not sure they have a growl, sorry sorry type song. A power ballad like without U may work. winner has had hits I actually think bts did not have public hits they just have so many fans that they have numbers.

no, actually i have a standing policy against high level collabs post 2nd gen; the fans just cannot handle it. The only exception is with MMM cuz their fans are mostly sane.