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then my point is under that definition aren't all artists idols? since if the definition is idolize? idolize - admire, revere, or love greatly or excessively. then every single artist has fans who idolize them no?

dummi's just jealous because chaeyeon didn't say dummi instead of danni if the song was "Dummi you're hearing the radio" I'm sure dummi would have an entirely different reaction

@roses_are_rosie stop bullying my new friend moguri!!!

so the question then is what makes a person an idol is there a difference between a kpop artist ie. someone who sings in korean and pop music vs. an "idol" or is it the same?

@the101 you ok my friend I remember the last time we spoke you were quarantining from covid during thanksgiving - any lingering symptoms?

interesting a person can self-identify as a kpop idol? hmmm...and who is the audience - we as kpop fans? the korean GP? the korean media? my point is what if there's a disagreement as to whether someone is or is not a kpop idol that's the reason for me making this thread to hear different...

does that imply that one must be in korea to be a kpop idol? that's right I have yet to consider the virtual idols - you raise an interesting point - they would be considered virtual idols but would they be considered kpop idols??? hmm... but alexa trained in korea correct? for XG are they...

interesting then what's the difference between an artist and an idol then? an artist has fans and fans idolize their artist so??? idolize - admire, revere, or love greatly or excessively. and what is popularity? even nugu or lesser known idols have fans but they are still idols no? does it...

you're getting bullied by rosesarerosie?

then I, LSM, ruler of kwangya and paver of the way hereby bestow upon you the honoary title of WAY(V) PAVER!!!

thanks for the follow my friend so tell me something about yourself which I don't already know

I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying my friend so does that mean the question then becomes what makes a person who sings kpop an "idol"

I understand what you wrote in that other post I don't neccessrily disagree with it and thus I asked above the question is then whether he is a kpop artist vs kpop idol correct?

interesting

so what you're saying is that there is a separation between kpop and idol... and thus if i understand your argument then because kpop is a genre and language that any person that sings in korean under a kpop genre would be a kpop artists but Rusur isn't yet an "idol" would that be a fair argument?

is it a combination of factors? or would one suffice? do they have to debut in korea? set foot in korea? would you consider kaachi a kpop group? since one member I think is korean and their original songs do have korean in them whereas for niziu they neither have an original song in korean not...