Official Admin and Moderator Feedback Response (3 Viewers)

[lexus]

Why? I didn't lie anywhere.

Never said you lied, I just said to stop saying that we didn't help or care about the matter. We tried to help you. We talked about the situation together for a while and like I said earlier, we came to the conclusion that a rule wasn't technically broken. All they did was defend Giselle and had a different opinion than yours. They had made no racist comments nor did they say anything bad about cultural appropriation, etc. You don't have to like their opinion. Heck I don't even like their opinion. At all. However, it doesn't mean that we can just whip out verbals or WP's as you see fit.

If they were to spew out racist comments then the comments would've been deleted right away and a punishment would've been given immediately. But since that didn't happen we can't give any type of punishment out, especially since all they stated was their own opinion.

 

[cocomelon]

Never said you lied, I just said to stop saying that we didn't help or care about the matter. We tried to help you. We talked about the situation together for a while and like I said earlier, we came to the conclusion that a rule wasn't technically broken. All they did was defend Giselle and had a different opinion than yours. They had made no racist comments nor did they say anything bad about cultural appropriation, etc. You don't have to like their opinion. Heck I don't even like their opinion. At all. However, it doesn't mean that we can just whip out verbals or WP's as you see fit.

If they were to spew out racist comments then the comments would've been deleted right away and a punishment would've been given immediately. But since that didn't happen we can't give any type of punishment out, especially since all they stated was their own opinion.

What can I say then, stay ignorant.

 

[Juniverse]

Firstly, that is not how the story went. An idol sang a racial slur in a song. One user defended the idol from doing so, saying that this is a racial slur and should not be said in conversation but was placed in a song, and thus, thinks that the idol should not be punished for something that was intentionally placed in the song lyrics. This is an opinion. The user did not say the racial slur nor did they call any other user the racial slur. Simply voiced their opinion that if this was placed in a song by the artist, then an idol should not be punished for singing it. None of this breaks rules. In fact, we have had threads about this in the past which have been discussed with no sides receiving punishments.

This is a difference of opinion. This is a heated topic. We cannot help that it was discussed in this forum, but like I said, nowhere in the rules is it stated that these topics cannot be discussed or that people can't lean one way or another. If you bring this sort of topic into the forum, then expect to hear all opinions.

Users can get offended by this. It is what it is. The thread could have been requested to deleted but wasn't. The user was given multiple options by me, but took none of them. I cannot punish a user for not breaking any rules. It is what it is. This was addressed properly and literally by the level of moderators AND admins. Everyone in the staff team came to the same conclusion. If you determine this to be the thing that makes you want to go to another forum, then that is your decision.

The user approved of Giselle's use of the N-word in a song, and then called those who were offended by it fragile and unreasonable, and insinuated that if we had an issue with it, it was our problem.

This was my issue. Not the fact that the user expressed an opinion, but because of how they expressed it. Hell, I stan someone who said the N-word with his whole chest and refused to apologize. Am I proud of that? No. Do I hold him accountable and see him in a different light? Yes I do. Blindly defending your faves, refusing to educate yourself, and then demeaning those who have a problem with it? This is where I get confused as to why no action was taken.

As I said, this is my only complaint. I think you are all doing well in other areas of the forum. But I believe there is room to improve when it comes to discussing sensitive topics. I'm not looking to cause trouble, merely to bring your attention to the fact that users are seriously upset over the lack of action to combat problematic users and borderline racism.

 

[Panda]

Good teamwork then ig

We are done discussing this. We are open to user suggestions but at this point, arguing is not going anywhere. Please don't expect any more replies from us regarding this topic.

 

[SHlNEE]

it's kinda like wow, how i come back and read all of this....
im pretty sure i even suggested this idea back when i was active .... the whole feedback on the forum like this.... and it actually happened... (well i believe to a staff in private but i think they didnt like the idea back then)
and then like i see all of these posts
and earlier today when i was on my way to college....
i was hating and disliking on certain type of people at the subway station because they were being illegal assholes and abusing me in a way i shall not explain...
but then i had the realisation......

EVEN THOUGH I HATE CERTAIN TYPE OF PEOPLE WITH A PASSION..... JUST LET IT FKIN GO
yes many people are fkd up (btw this is a general message, not targeted to anyone here in specific)
and it makes the world a scary place

BUT HATE AND DISLIKE AND LOATHIN ALL THESE PEOPLE...... its a waste of time and it only causes stress
STRESS IS BAD FOR YO SKIN AND HEART MAN

what im trying to say is.... even though we may have good reasons to stand up for ourselves
sometimes, when things can't be helped because its a global issue and a fkin miracle needs to happen for things to change
you might as well just not hate or loathe or dislike etc etc whatever the right english terms are lol
and just move on and focus on good vibes and focus on yourself becoming a better version than you were yesterday

THAT YOU CAN MAKE HAPPEN
trying to make it it happen that other people treat you better is a useless game you gonna lose if thats all you focus on
because guess what, most people you will meet, online and offline, suck so bad, so there is nothing you can do about it, the amount of these type of people available on this planet today is too big, face the fact and just move on (i blame bad parenting mostly )

again, this is a general message i just wanted to put out there because i saw a connection somewhat here with what i was thinking earlier today and i wanted to be positive and give some advice
i know i did not mention any content in specific , so it might be off topic in a way to some of you
but pls dont ignore my

to try and help these youngster realise all these negative emotions and feelings do not serve you in any way and only cause you stress and bad health
AND BAD SKIN OMG, PLS FOR THE LOVE OF ALL KPOP GODS, SAVE YOUR SKIN, LET IT GGOOOOOO AND BE POSITIVE

also, i had tons of feedback for staff when i was active like a year ago???? but i obviously forgot it all
BUT
for now, keep up the good work folks, still liking this place after such long hiatus