Am I the only one who finds educating idols through fansigns weird (1 Viewer)

[Juniverse]

Obviously, I think idols should be educated if they have truly done something wrong, but in all the videos I see of idols being "educated", they just look really uncomfortable/nervous with this fake smile. I just don't think it's the right way to do things and sometimes it seems like those who join fansigns for the sole reason of educating someone (which never seems to end well anyway because staff is there) are taking the opportunity away from a different fan who just wants to meet them. And it sometimes comes across as attention-seeking, how are you supposed to truly educate someone in the span of 60 seconds? It's just not possible imo.

Same thing for "coming out" to the idols. It's just weird and I'll never understand it.

 

[Yili]

I don't prefer it especially people using the word "educating" when they talk about it as if the idols are stupid or should be treated like an elementary child.

If this thread is a reference to Jake from Enha I feel doubly bad because it wasn't his fault he wore that necklace and he looked like he felt so nervous and tense and even indirectly acknowledged he was feeling down on weverse after a live he did

I'm all for holding idols accountable for their actions but doing it in a fansign is weird to me too. I would just want to have it be a positive and non awkward experience for both idol and fan

 

[Kamistar]

I don't prefer it especially people using the word "educating" when they talk about it as if the idols are stupid or should be treated like an elementary child

Omg exactly lol

 

[Chaeee]

I feel a bit awkward here with my Jake aesthetic ngl

Same thing for "coming out" to the idols. It's just weird and I'll never understand it.

I agree here. Like idols don’t care, and some are probably even homophobic. If they are how are they supposed to react? It just makes the atmosphere awkward

 

[Tickita]

It's gonna take longer than 60 seconds to educate someone. Don't waste it on a fansign. Plus, you're not the only fan they're meeting and they might not think about it that much afterwards. I'm sure they know how to research themselves anyway.

Same thing for "coming out" to the idols. It's just weird and I'll never understand it.

And I honestly feel the same way about people who extensively talk to idols about their mental health.

 

[Michael]

I don't think it's the fans place to educate the idols. They should have people already for that.

 

[mysteric]

I understand and agree that a lot of the casual colorism and ca you see a lot as a kpop fan is an issue, that much isn't up to debate
however, a lot of the so-called educating is used as more of a means of virtue signalling without actually understanding what actually makes for effective intercultural understanding and respect, especially with the demeaning language that usually pops up when the issue is brought up
it only works imo when you and the idol have some sort of relationship going on; I remember one snh48 girl made a comparison of her tanned skin (colorism, I know) with black women (yikes), international fans were of course upset and one of the fans who chatted with her regularly via fanpai basically dmed her about the issue and why it was problematic. the casual colorism and racism obviously never registered to the idol before, but she apologized on live and on a weibo post and has no other instances of that further happening from my knowledge: there was already trust on both sides of the conversation which was what made that type of educating actually work

 

[eclipsoul]

i mean i find fancalls awkward in general so there's that lmao. agree about educating because at the end of the day if you're really willing to educate yourself on something then it takes more than a minute of talking with a stranger who literally paid for that conversation. but the coming out thing i don't really mind, if there are people using their fancall as an opportunity to make idols do animal noises or aegyo then i see nothing wrong in someone telling that an idol brings them comfort when they don't feel accepted by others or something along those lines. as long as they don't go all out acting like the idol is their therapist then it's rather harmless.

 

[Ahsoka]

There’s a place and a time but a fancall isn’t it

 

[Hoemantic]

I'm all for "educating" but come on... I remember that Lisa fansign, she looked so uncomfortable. She prob felt like shit after.

Their face scream "This b!tch really spent a hundred dollars for that?" which I find funny.

I agree with coming out too. It's not like they're your friend or family lmao. Do it in a context that feels more natural like (female fan) "my girlfriend loves your music too!". It makes more sense than ayo I'm gay nice to meet you.

 

[CosmicNightmare]

I guess it can be awkward but like...I also understand why fans feel the need to do so. Like in Jake's case, the only reason that fan had to do that was because Belift wasn't responding to the emails being sent about the issue (which isn't shocking when you remember how terribly the Heeseung situation was handled). If companies would allow their idols to apologize after they mess up in the first place (or apologize on that idol's behalf if it wasn't their fault, as was the case with Jake), then fans wouldn't have to resort to such desperate measures to let the idol know what happened.

I guess this is an unpopular opinion based on the replies here but if I were an idol and I unknowingly did something offensive, I wouldn't be mad if a fan decided to let me know what's wrong at the fansign. Obviously with how short fancalls are they wouldn't be able to give me a full explanation on why whatever I did was offensive, but even just a baseline explanation so I can look into the issue more on my own time would be appreciated.

 

[Abeamus]

Fansigns at the end of the day are meant to be fun for not just the fans but also the idol as well so I don't think a fansign is the time or the place for trying to "educate" and idol but it's just part of the fact that fans never truly let anything go since really the time to educate an idol on an issue is the immediate aftermath of it