Any interest I had with BG's... (1 Viewer)

[spicy_illusion]

Is now completely gone.
I'm not saying that I stanned any in the first place, but I was getting into a few but now I can't no matter how good they are.
I have nothing against BG's personally and even have nothing against BG stans if they still want to support them, but after what has happened, it has made me think about the industry more and how much more wary we have to be and how they treat their idols (yes, including male idols).
As someone who is heavily interested in GG, this this hurts on a deeper level, not only for these women but for everyone who has been a victim, even outside of K-pop.
Just now I read about SNSD's Yoona getting groped which is just not ok.
Why do we as human beings have the right to touch another human being without their permission?
It's just really heartbreaking to see this, especially in the industry that I love.

I knew the dark side of K-pop but to this extent I did not know and now I can't let it just slide as probably many of you can't either.

Right now, I am literally hanging onto K-pop by a thread and if it wasn't for Dreamcatcher or any of the GG that I wholeheartedly love and adore, I would have left already.
I know that the whole of the music industry isn't perfect either, but I'm talking as a K-pop fan.

 

[joshuaology]

I kind of don't want anything to do with 2nd gen bgs anymore

And I only stan three or four 3rd gen bgs

 

[SeulPika]

I feel you.

The slightest bit of interest that I had in bgs has been completely lost. This has just reminded me why I've always stuck to girl groups (and females in general irl)

 

[joshuaology]

I feel you.

The slightest bit of interest that I had in bgs has been completely lost. This has just reminded me why I've always stuck to girl groups (and females in general irl)

I'm no feminist and women can be awful in their own ways but female idols, despite all the suffering they go through, would probably never do anything like this

 

[spicy_illusion]

I kind of don't want anything to do with 2nd gen bgs anymore

And I only stan three or four 3rd gen bgs

It's much harder when you are actually a BG stan, now it makes you question everything.
Of course, there are many BG who would be completely against it and they would be ashamed.
The question is, even if you think someone would never do such a thing, they might surprise you and if it's someone you idolise, it's such a horrible feeling.

I feel you.

The slightest bit of interest that I had in bgs has been completely lost. This has just reminded me why I've always stuck to girl groups (and females in general irl)

I know what you mean. It's sad though because I was giving BG a chance and if I am honest, there are some that has impressed me and it was making me much more open to BG.

 

[Panda]

I feel you, even though I have given up the VIP title quite some time ago, I did keep BB in my heart. And, I'm just conflicted at this point, especially as Seungri had been my bias in the group and even one of my first biases in Kpop. Now idk what to do anymore with the older BGs that I liked and constantly listened to. But I also try to not group them together, because even their group members may be completely innocent and I can't just lump them all together... so idk. I'm still waiting for the resolution of everything, I'm not sure why anymore, but I feel like the entire case has to finish before I can even think about this anymore.

Thankfully, my other favs are not included in this.

 

[taemkitten]

It's unfortunate that the slime balls that committed these sins and hurt their victims are causing even more hurt towards their once-fans and people that were never their fans to begin with but now are not able to view many or any male groups in a light other than less-than-wholesome or what a man should be (truthfully, what ANY human being should be).

I can understand your feeling and I'm sad to hear that, again, those bastards have made you feel this way about male idols as a whole and the Kpop industry. As horrific as it is, one of the very few good things (if you choose to look at it this way) it's a bit harder for some people to see the industry as sparkles and rainbows now, but hopefully see it for what it is - a place that has a lot of people looking to live their dreams, to sing and perform because they love it. People that make bonds with others over years, and who enjoy what they do even if it's hard sometimes. People that genuinely are good and do well by others - but also a place that, as with many corporations that revolve on and rely a lot on money and reputation, connections with other corporations, has a darker side too that not everyone (of course) participates in.

Sorry to go far with what I was saying, but, I hope that doesn't further make you feel negatively!

 

[kuro]

I feel you.

The slightest bit of interest that I had in bgs has been completely lost. This has just reminded me why I've always stuck to girl groups (and females in general irl)

SIS THIS IS WHY I NEVER STANNED BOY GROUPS
my only exceptions are my kings Super Junior and BTS, will never forget them

but I don't stan any other boy groups that hard

 

[SeulPika]

SIS THIS IS WHY I NEVER STANNED BOY GROUPS
my only exceptions are my kings Super Junior and BTS, will never forget them

but I don't stan any other boy groups that hard

The only exceptions for me have been SHINee's Jonghyun, Taeyang, G Dragon and also some Winner songs...

 

[kuro]

The only exceptions for me have been SHINee's Jonghyun, Taeyang, G Dragon and also some Winner songs...

so much taste I can't even comprehend-

 

[Day]

I feel you, even though I have given up the VIP title quite some time ago, I did keep BB in my heart. And, I'm just conflicted at this point, especially as Seungri had been my bias in the group and even one of my first biases in Kpop. Now idk what to do anymore with the older BGs that I liked and constantly listened to. But I also try to not group them together, because even their group members may be completely innocent and I can't just lump them all together... so idk. I'm still waiting for the resolution of everything, I'm not sure why anymore, but I feel like the entire case has to finish before I can even think about this anymore.

Thankfully, my other favs are not included in this.

I agree with the bolded statements. Maybe it's because I am first and foremost a BG stan and secondly a very selective GG stan, but I haven't had much of a say in this case at all since it began unfolding. I believe in the law (it hurts even me to say this, considering the situation), but more than that I believe in the power of the people - the outcry from the public will eventually bring everything to light.

I also love the boys that I stan, and I choose to believe that they are not like these scum that have already been outed. Obviously, this is just my blind trust & love in them speaking. I think that this aspect right here is what makes KPOP so dangerous. We invest so much time into our idols that we cannot handle/tolerate anything shattering their perfect images.

Will I lean more towards GGs because of this incident? No. Because women are also capable of being evil and no gender deserves this blind trust anymore than the other.

I understand OP's viewpoint, but I do not agree with it. I blame my ignorance for the way I feel, because there are so many events unfolding that I've never had experiences with or ran into in my lifetime. I don't know how it feels to be a victim or know a victim, and for that, I'm sorry to not be able to empathize. I hope justice is delivered and these individuals rot.

 

[Mangoey]

Im gonna be honest, any interest i have with kpop in general is basically gone. I still want to follow my faves for a while longer, but with the remainder of Highlight enlisting soon (I swear to god if I find out any of the remaining four are involved in dumb shit...), there isn't much keeping me here anymore.

This is purely my opinion and you can disagree, but I think kpop fandoms suck, most of the groups don't release good music anymore, and after being confronted with the harsh reality that probably all of it is fake and fabricated.... yeah I'm just over it.

 

[VillageIdiot]

I'm right here with you
Even the bgs who's music I like, I don't consider myself a Stan because I have zero attachment to the members and could drop them like that. This is really making me reconsider wanting to Stan them even tho they seem really chill.

But let's not forget that boys are just as likely to be victims and exploited in this fucked up industry and less likely to be heard.
Idk if I'll look at any more groups after Smgg, if even them.
I might just let Cherry Bullet and Itzy carry me to the end and then I'm done

 

[Day]

This is purely my opinion and you can disagree, but I think kpop fandoms suck, most of the groups don't release good music anymore, and after being confronted with the harsh reality that probably all of it is fake and fabricated.... yeah I'm just over it.

Can't agree more. I'm glad VIXX has such an amazing fandom, or else I would've been out of this nonsense a year ago.

 

[spicy_illusion]

I know that it's not just male idols that are capable of doing this type of thing and there are also male victims who don't get heard either, just so you all know and of course I don't condone this type of actions from anyone.
My reasons for giving up BG fully is to do with how male dominated the industry is and how there are usually different terms between male and female idols.
But since my interests in BG were not big enough anyway, it has completely vanished.
Whether I will be interested in BG again in the future remains to be seen.

 

[Ringwanderung]

i don’t think anyone could “fabricate” or “fake” their entire personality, but it just shows that people show only their attractive sides on camera (or are edited that way)... and that’s always how it has been

no one can be 100% genuine, that’s impossible cause humanity?

that goes for everyone (not only kpop obviously), both boy groups and girl groups, we don’t know them personally except for their on-stage and on-camera selves

and i’m a fan of kpop for the music, performance, personality, visuals...

 

[Suzy]

I understand where you're coming from, I personally started feeling worried and questioning my own faves. They're not even linked in any way but I just felt so anxious. I also felt glad that I don't stan any second gen idols. But being male doesn't automatically make them all bad and being female doesn't mean they're all clean. Female idols are just as capable of committing crimes as male idols. Maybe not the exact same crime but other crimes. They're also capable of secretly recording and are possibly even capable of abuse (there was a female idol who was investigated for abusing her bf but I can't remember who she was now since it got buried pretty quickly). So they're no angels just because they're girls.

As for the part about females being harassed, I know it's disgusting and it sucks that they have to go through that but it happens to boys too. There have been so many instances last year of sexual harassment towards male idols making the news but nobody cared and they just blew over after a few days. I'm not saying that it's easier for girls because I'm sure it's not. But male idols get it too. So sure at times like this it would be easier to just stan female idols but female =/= good. They could be doing so many terrible and illegal things that we're not aware of. So I disagree with the reasoning in this thread for the most part. But you choosing to stan only females is completely your choice and freedom so I have nothing to say to that.

 

[leesooman]

I kind of don't want anything to do with 2nd gen bgs anymore

And I only stan three or four 3rd gen bgs

i hope bts/exo/svt/nct etc. wont turn out like this. korea and asia in general is changing and i hope this case serves as a reminder for them.

I feel you.

The slightest bit of interest that I had in bgs has been completely lost. This has just reminded me why I've always stuck to girl groups (and females in general irl)

i was never interested in bgs tbh. not cause theyre male but they just were never interesting. always the same concept and the oppa protection squad everywhere.

Im gonna be honest, any interest i have with kpop in general is basically gone. I still want to follow my faves for a while longer, but with the remainder of Highlight enlisting soon (I swear to god if I find out any of the remaining four are involved in dumb shit...), there isn't much keeping me here anymore.

This is purely my opinion and you can disagree, but I think kpop fandoms suck, most of the groups don't release good music anymore, and after being confronted with the harsh reality that probably all of it is fake and fabricated.... yeah I'm just over it.

i mean its surprising how much kpop stans are baffled. you would think from all the "idols are humans too" speech they write, they realized idols are not perfect. but i understand, even when i knew celebs were not what they seem on camera, who would think they were like this?

 

[Mangoey]

i hope bts/exo/svt/nct etc. wont turn out like this. korea and asia in general is changing and i hope this case serves as a reminder for them.

i was never interested in bgs tbh. not cause theyre male but they just were never interesting. always the same concept and the oppa protection squad everywhere.

i mean its surprising how much kpop stans are baffled. you would think from all the "idols are humans too" speech they write, they realized idols are not perfect. but i understand, even when i knew celebs were not what they seem on camera, who would think they were like this?

yeah exactly. I think when people talk about how idols also have flaws, they think a lot smaller like the occasional lie or being too loose with their money. at least I did.

I'd like to think that no normal human would've gone as far as these people have and would've felt as little remorse as they seem to.

it just shows how the entertainment industry can warp people or at least how it attracts people like them.

besides, no one really likes to think that the beautiful, perpetually happy, talented person that they adore is actually disgusting inside.

 

[Lighterxx]

I have to say, its extreme generalization. There are male idols suffered from this side of the industry as well, when it comes to bad people, gender doesn't matter. Anyway, I understand your feelings, tho will still hope you can change your viewpoint.