Can you think of rulers that were powerful but doomed their country to failure? (2 Viewers)

Ahsoka · 26 May 2024

At least for some time after their rule.

Cathrine the Great, I learned more about her and she did a lot for Russia and was probably the last big monarch for Russia, but her later paranoia and treatment of her son doomed the next generations to failure.

Day · 26 May 2024

as someone who knows nothing of Catherine the Great, will you tell the story?

dark_tranquility · 26 May 2024

Mary queen of scotts since she got killed?

Ahsoka · 26 May 2024

Shou said:
as someone who knows nothing of Catherine the Great, will you tell the story?

Basically she was born a noble but not one with great connections. Somehow she was arranged to marry the future heir of Russia. She wanted to impress his mom so she went crazy learning Russian and about the Russian orthodox church and stuff and therefore became loved by the people. Her husband became the ruler and sucked so she overthrew him ~~and maybe ordered his death but that's unsure. he did die soon after abdicating the throne though~~. Then she made lots of reforms and stuff based on the enlightenment and people loved her. One example was that she summoned people of all kinds of occupations and ethnicities and religions to try to understand what laws need to be changed and such ~~but the serfs, aka 9/10 of the population, were not invited.~~ It kind of failed because these people didn't believe that she actually wanted opinion of legislation so they spent their time coming up with a pretty title for her instead of discussing laws. She told them off for that. Anyways, she also conquered some places, and Russia became bigger and overall nicer as long as you weren't a serf. She had many partners and eventually had a kid (a son). But with age she became paranoid and less powerful of a ruler. And she was paranoid her son would overthrow her like she overthrew her husband so he grew up emotionally stunted and unfit to rule. Then she died and he was the ruler. Really prepared him well

Day · 26 May 2024

Ahsoka said:
Basically she was born a noble but not one with great connections. Somehow she was arranged to marry the future heir of Russia. She wanted to impress his mom so she went crazy learning Russian and about the Russian orthodox church and stuff and therefore became loved by the people. Her husband became the ruler and sucked so she overthrew him ~~and maybe ordered his death but that's unsure. he did die soon after abdicating the throne though~~. Then she made lots of reforms and stuff based on the enlightenment and people loved her. One example was that she summoned people of all kinds of occupations and ethnicities and religions to try to understand what laws need to be changed and such ~~but the serfs, aka 9/10 of the population, were not invited.~~ It kind of failed because these people didn't believe that she actually wanted opinion of legislation so they spent their time coming up with a pretty title for her instead of discussing laws. She told them off for that. Anyways, she also conquered some places, and Russia became bigger and overall nicer as long as you weren't a serf. She had many partners and eventually had a kid (a son). But with age she became paranoid and less powerful of a ruler. And she was paranoid her son would overthrow her like she overthrew her husband so he grew up emotionally stunted and unfit to rule. Then she died and he was the ruler. Really prepared him well

#justice4serfs !!!!!
and damn. she sounds like bluestar @Wingfrost o_o i love that girl so much but DAMN did she drive me crazy at the very end. just bc your most trusted ally tried to kill you once doesn't mean you have to go against the rules of the clan and refuse to name a new deputy by sundown :yeehaw: she made me so mad when she was questioning if she could trust fireheart.... like gurl... you've been seeing the omens about how fire will save the clan for SO LONG would you just TRUST STARCLAN