Does it ever feel like the world is going backwards? (2 Viewers)

[Ahsoka]

Yes. I just read about a proposed bill thats full of nonsense, but the part that was the most wtf was banning certain college majors from that states universities. Like who thinks “I don’t like this therefore I’ll ban it for everyone”? Whether you think it’s a dumb major or whatever, that doesn’t affect you, no one’s kidnapping you and forcing you to take university classes on that subject. It’s basically just censorship, which many Americans would say is supposedly “not American” (which is debatable but that’s what people claim)

 

[Yelena_Belova]

Yes! This! What states and degrees though, I feel so uncultured for not knowing this.

 

[Myth]

That's America for you... full of contradictions...

 

[Ahsoka]

Yes! This! What states and degrees though, I feel so uncultured for not knowing this.

It’s a new thing, it’s hasn’t been passed yet. The majors are “critical race theory, Gender Studies, or Intersectionality, or any derivative major or minor of these belief systems”. That’s what I found in an article at least. Oh and it’s Florida that’s trying to pass it.

 

[StirFriedPanda]

Yes. I just read about a proposed bill thats full of nonsense, but the part that was the most wtf was banning certain college majors from that states universities. Like who thinks “I don’t like this therefore I’ll ban it for everyone”? Whether you think it’s a dumb major or whatever, that doesn’t affect you, no one’s kidnapping you and forcing you to take university classes on that subject. It’s basically just censorship, which many Americans would say is supposedly “not American” (which is debatable but that’s what people claim)

Not even sure it applies to the reasoning behind the bill but colleges are starting to add inclusive requirements such as women's studies, classes on gender, sexual orientation, etc to graduation requirements. The college I went to required the "overall" theme off ALL English courses to be "gender acceptance". I'm not against these classes but I don't think they have any right to require them. I had to take 4 English classes, so I had this violently shoved down my throat for 2 years. If I'm an engineer, mathematician, marine biologist, etc making students take these courses is a waste of time energy and effort and actually harms acceptance. I made sure to make all my professors classes a living hell with my unpopular opinions. When they complained about my militant views I explained if they had the right to shove these views down my throat then I had the right to shove my views down their throat. What really drove them insane is that I wasn't against a lot of what they were advocating but using an unrelated subject for propaganda is what made me mad. And if they REALLY didn't' like it they could tell the college how inappropriate it was to force these kind of views on their students in an English class for an entire semester. Rest assured I gave a lot of the administration headaches complaining about it. I'm not at against inclusivity, I'm against the requirement that you study it. Literally half of graduation requirements these days have nothing to do with the actual degree. I was becoming a machinist and drafts person, WTF do I need a class on Art Appreciation. WTF do I need Mexican American history!? Why the hell do I HAVE to learn about Mexican American history when there's an entire fucking world to learn about (I'm not against the class, just it's specific requirement when there's other history I could learn). If it's banning an entire degree path I'm really against that and I agree, that's censorship.

 

[Ahsoka]

Not even sure it applies to the reasoning behind the bill but colleges are starting to add inclusive requirements such as women's studies, classes on gender, sexual orientation, etc to graduation requirements. The college I went to required the "overall" theme off ALL English courses to be "gender acceptance". I'm not against these classes but I don't think they have any right to require them. I had to take 4 English classes, so I had this violently shoved down my throat for 2 years. If I'm an engineer, mathematician, marine biologist, etc making students take these courses is a waste of time energy and effort and actually harms acceptance. I made sure to make all my professors classes a living hell with my unpopular opinions. When they complained about my militant views I explained if they had the right to shove these views down my throat then I had the right to shove my views down their throat. What really drove them insane is that I wasn't against a lot of what they were advocating but using an unrelated subject for propaganda is what made me mad. And if they REALLY didn't' like it they could tell the college how inappropriate it was to force these kind of views on their students in an English class for an entire semester. Rest assured I gave a lot of the administration headaches complaining about it. I'm not at against inclusivity, I'm against the requirement that you study it. Literally half of graduation requirements these days have nothing to do with the actual degree. I was becoming a machinist and drafts person, WTF do I need a class on Art Appreciation. WTF do I need Mexican American history!? Why the hell do I HAVE to learn about Mexican American history when there's an entire fucking world to learn about (I'm not against the class, just it's specific requirement when there's other history I could learn). If it's banning an entire degree path I'm really against that and I agree, that's censorship.

Yeah they’re not saying get rid of it as a requirement they’re saying a full on ban from my understanding. Requiring that much of it is weird imo, requiring one class or half a semester on it and giving options which you can pick from I don’t necessarily see an issue with. I’m kind of surprised tbh, between me and my not young siblings I don’t think my brother or I had a requirement for all students related to stuff like that and my sister had one semester with a wide range of options, and my sister and brother both went to liberal arts colleges and my sister to one that my dad considers extremely “preachy”. I didn’t realize there were any colleges as intense as yours was.

 

[StirFriedPanda]

Yeah they’re not saying get rid of it as a requirement they’re saying a full on ban from my understanding. Requiring that much of it is weird imo, requiring one class or half a semester on it and giving options which you can pick from I don’t necessarily see an issue with. I’m kind of surprised tbh, between me and my not young siblings I don’t think a my brother or I had a requirement for all students related to stuff like that and my sister had one semester with a wide range of options, and my sister and brother both went to liberal arts colleges and my sister to one that my dad considers extremely “preachy”. I didn’t realize there were any colleges s intense as yours was.

Welcome to California. And it was only a local community college. I don't miss anything about that place but the food.

 

[Yelena_Belova]

Welcome to California. And it was only a local community college. I don't miss anything about that place but the food.

Well that does explain everything then.

 

[MK3AM]

yes!! first women cant get abortions and now states are trying to stuff to trans people and make sure they don't get rights is sad :(

 

[Selfmate]

that's democracy for ya??? lol

 

[Ahsoka]

that's democracy for ya??? lol

I'm not that politically savy, but stuff like this reminds me of "true" democracies, which supposedly let the minorities voices be crushed by the majority. Not in the sense that the majority vote is what decides the laws (the majority very much could be the same as what's happening ofc). I'll end there before I say something that make others hate me for having an opinion

 

[Selfmate]

I'm not that politically savy, but stuff like this reminds me of "true" democracies, which supposedly let the minorities voices be crushed by the majority. Not in the sense that the majority vote is what decides the laws (the majority very much could be the same as what's happening ofc). I'll end there before I say something that make others hate me for having an opinion

power corrupts
absolute power corrupts absolutely...

doesn't matter if it's a dictatorship/communalism/democracy - those with power will always find a means to keep it

 

[Ahsoka]

power corrupts
absolute power corrupts absolutely...

doesn't matter if it's a dictatorship/communalism/democracy - those with power will always find a means to keep it

Yep, that was all to obvious recently
Not to mention gerrymandering which should not be a thing ever, and yes I know no party is innocent with regards to that

 

[Selfmate]

Yep, that was all to obvious recently
Not to mention gerrymandering which should not be a thing ever, and yes I know no party is innocent with regards to that

I'd read about some of the gerrymandering that went on in the US and I'm like??? WTF??? lol
I've never even heard of the word prior to hearing about it with regards to the US...

 

[Ahsoka]

I'd read about some of the gerrymandering that went on in the US and I'm like??? WTF??? lol
I've never even heard of the word prior to hearing about it with regards to the US...

Is it even a thing outside the US? I've never heard of it anywhere else

 

[Selfmate]

Is it even a thing outside the US? I've never heard of it anywhere else

it's not really prevalent down under but maybe in other countries???
here there is a separate non politically affiliated department specifically dealing with elections and drawing election districts and such

 

[StirFriedPanda]

Not to mention gerrymandering which should not be a thing ever

Am I the only one who thinks the word "gerrymandering" sounds like a sex crime?