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if she needs to leave then quite a few of your own favs would also need to leave their groups for being ignorant
yall just love to cherry pick idols to drag to the mud


again not defending her, both instances shes been dumb and ignorant and ppl have a right to be upset with her
but there is a line and dragging her abilities and saying she needs to leave bcs of it is just stupid
I rlly hope ur not white speaking on this ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€
 
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"cherry picked" no ones cherry picking her. her actions speak for themselves. and her doing this, after apparently apologising another incident, i think that's pretty much the line
you are tho...
wheres the same attitude for twice or nct who have had multiple members be ignorant of other cultures multiple times


if you're not black or hindu, please don't call us stupid for protecting our cultures. :pepeheart:
now go reread my message, i never said that ppl shouldn't be upset with her, she should be held accountable period
what you're doing isn't just holding her accountable, you're bashing her for things that don't have anything to do w her being ignorant

also didn't call you stupid just some of your messages:pepeheart:
 

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It's questionable but she won't leave aespa as these kinds of issues are usually just apologise, let things die down and then carry on like normal and anyone leaving as a result is a very rare case if any
 
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wheres the same attitude for twice or nct who have had multiple members be ignorant of other cultures multiple times
i'm not sure about nct but i ult twice and momo said the n word when she was made to audition for sixteen and she was made to say that word because it was chosen for her, plus she till this day isn't fluent in english or exposed to pop culture like giselle.

chaeyoung also did certain moves i believe but you know what? they both grew from it. they learned from it and improved themselves. unlike giselle who did the same thing twice in less than a year.
 
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you are tho...
wheres the same attitude for twice or nct who have had multiple members be ignorant of other cultures multiple times



now go reread my message, i never said that ppl shouldn't be upset with her, she should be held accountable period
what you're doing isn't just holding her accountable, you're bashing her for things that don't have anything to do w her being ignorant

also didn't call you stupid just some of your messages:pepeheart:
and i ask you the same question again, are you black or hindu?
 
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these kinds of issues are usually just apologise, let things die down and then carry on like normal and anyone leaving as a result is a very rare case if any
and you know what that leads to? idols thinking it is okay, it is the norm to do these things. when its clearly not. they should be held accountable properly for their actions, because enough is enough, no one's teaching them to respect cultures. things need to change.
 
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and you know what that leads to? idols thinking it is okay, it is the norm to do these things. when its clearly not. they should be held accountable properly for their actions, because enough is enough, no one's teaching them to respect cultures. things need to change.
People are teaching them to respect cultures though but especially with female idols the ones educated just end up replaced with other uneducated idols so you have to go through educating them again.

It's going to be a revolving door because idols aren't the root of the problem it's Koreas ignorance as a whole like certain incidents including Sowons and Loona YYXYs are photos taken at places with that kind of material being a feature of the place.

The comments on the naver article about Sowons also showed that most Koreans didn't get the issue which that's a larger issue to not get compared to other stuff.

It's not okay that it happens but it is going to happen because i-fans don't have the power to change the root issue only the ones that make it into the public eye.
 
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People are teaching them to respect cultures though but especially with female idols the ones educated just end up replaced with other uneducated idols so you have to go through educating them again.

It's going to be a revolving door because idols aren't the root of the problem it's Koreas ignorance as a whole like certain incidents including Sowons and Loona YYXYs are photos taken at places with that kind of material being a feature of the place.

The comments on the naver article about Sowons also showed that most Koreans didn't get the issue which that's a larger issue to not get compared to other stuff.

It's not okay that it happens but it is going to happen because i-fans don't have the power to change the root issue only the ones that make it into the public eye.
it is a deep rooted issue i agree.
 
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I'm trying to figure out your reasoning for this? Sally has every right to be upset. He's not hating over her. Which if he decided he wanted to, he'd have every right, since it's HIS culture she's mocking. Next.
 
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i was pretty upset by this
 
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I honestly agree with @Abeamus

This is a systematic issue, and quite frankly, I doubt this will change any time soon. If you don't agree with their actions, just don't stan them, that's the best you can do.
 

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Honestly, I don't want her to leave simply because I hate it when groups lose members. The group never feels quite right after that.
But Giselle seriously needs to learn from her actions and change. Her laugh in that clip pisses me off so much, like damn how can you be that ignorant.
 
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She's collecting scandals like trophies, god damn this girl :Sunwoo wtf why:
 
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i'm just sick of the constant negligence. one of the reasons, i'll leave kpop after twice disbands. but i'm even disheartened to see some non-poc belonging to first/second world countries defending her and her actions. like do you know this girl up close? you don't, neither do i. but you know what we do know about her? her actions, because they're public.
 
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i'm just sick of the constant negligence. one of the reasons, i'll leave kpop after twice disbands. but i'm even disheartened to see some non-poc belonging to first/second world countries defending her and her actions. like do you know this girl up close? you don't, neither do i. but you know what we do know about her? her actions, because they're public.
non-poc defending this stuff is always a red flag, people be trying to add in their useless imput acting like their preaching some groundbreaking revelation :hyungwontea:
 
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