Have you ever lost respect for an Idol? (2 Viewers)

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I disagree with the description of Irene "acting like a straight up diva basically", either you believe she's a diva or not. Or acting one way when she's not. I disagree with your statement of her based on 20 minutes of her life, after she apologised and it was accepted by the person she behaved unacceptably to. And two others who received her (Irene's) ire and also said (by the stylist) they accepted her apology. Im not gonna go by anything on this other than agreed upon facts so ill just say i disagree, if you believe Irene is a diva who doesnt deserve your respect, ill accept that. But either she is or isnt a diva, in your opinion. You dont hv to elaborate but i just disagree with you about your statement. No need to discuss it further if you dont want to.


Ur an alt so refer to my comments above, if they dont apply to you then idk wat to say to an alt. No need to reply or reveal urself, im judging you already for using an alt to reply here to this, you dont want me judging you even more by revealing urself to me/others unless u rlly want to. I also disagree with most of wat you say but refuse to engage further with an alt on this issue.

Abt other things mentioned here, i hv no public comments to make cos i hv either not thot deeply enuf abt it to comment/no comment either way.
No one said you had to agree. I still think Irene was out of line for the way she acted. The way she behaved was diva-like
 
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No one said you had to agree. I still think Irene was out of line for the way she acted. The way she behaved was diva-like
Wat thoughts do you have about this:

Since i was reminded about this incident tat was similar (in my mind);

Christian Bale apologises 'unreservedly' for Terminator set rant
This article is more than 11 years old
'I was out of order beyond belief,' says Dark Knight actor of his tirade at director of photography on set of Terminator Salvation
Christian Bale



Ben Child
@BenChildGeek
Mon 9 Feb 2009 09.58 GMT

Christian Bale has apologised unreservedly for his widely-reported rant on the set of the new Terminator movie, calling it "inexcusable" and admitting "I acted like a punk".
The actor spoke to Los Angeles radio station KROQ on Friday after a tape of his foul-mouthed tirade at Terminator Salvation director of photography Shane Hurlbut was released onto the internet. Hurlbut had made the mistake of walking into Bale's eyeline during a take on last July's shoot.


In a lengthy apology, Bale, who admitted the past week had been "miserable" for him, told presenters Kevin Ryder and Gene "Bean" Baxter: "I was out of order beyond belief. I make no excuses for it."
He added: "There is nobody who has heard that tape who has been hit harder than me. The one thing that disturbs me so much is that I've heard a lot of people saying that I seem to think that I'm better than anybody else.
"Nothing could be farther from the truth. I am a lucky man, I never forget that and that is why I put so much into what I do, and why I care so much about it and why sometimes that enthusiasm just goes awry."
Bale said he had been trying to express the "craziness" of his character John Connor, leader of the human resistance against their machine overlords, but mixed up fact and fiction when he launched his attack on Hurlbut. "I'm half John Connor, I'm half Christian there," he said.

The Dark Knight star insisted that he and Hurlbut had resolved their differences on the very day that the verbal attack took place. "When I say 'I'm not coming back on this set unless he's fired', it's hot air," he said. "I don't want anyone to misunderstand this: I've seen a rough cut of the movie and he has done a really wonderful, professional job on this."
Bale added: "I know some people are thinking, 'I'm not going to see this movie' because they think I'm a prima donna. Everybody worked so hard on this movie. Please, don't allow my incredibly embarassing meltdown to overshadow this movie and to have all of those people's hard work go to waste."
The actor's estranged mother, Jenny, has already waded into the affair, suggesting the incident might help people understand why she reported Bale to the police for an alleged assault last summer at London's Dorchester hotel, before The Dark Knight's UK premiere.

At the weekend, his sister, Sharon, told the Daily Telegraph she felt her sibling "might need help". The driving instructor, who lives in Poole, Dorset, said: "He verbally attacked us. He spoke in the same aggressive way he did to that lighting engineer. I wouldn't have minded so much but it was in front of my family and three children.
"He's normally a placid guy but he has done film after film and he really gets into character. I think he just needs time out."


I think he also behaved terribly to this director of photography, but he apologised and he hasnt done it again. I judge him for this single incident but at the time, i also went to watch his movies cos they interested me. I never stanned him so maybe tats different. I also consider him and other actors/singers/entertainers are human. Im fallible too. I can misjudge them if i hv blind spots. I just think Irene for 20 minutes acted terribly to the stylist and 2 others. She later apologised (you can quibble abt the apology/why/how she apologised). Divas like Mariah Carey or Barbra Streisand, to my recollection, never apologised publicly for their diva behavior. They expect it as if its their right.

Even this guy, Bale said he acted like a prima donna, then added he was being half John Connor half himself(paraphrased a lot), he dint promise to reflect and change but seemed to believe, tat as an actor it was his right to act terribly if it was part of his performance.

Im not saying it wasnt a terrible thing Irene did to the stylist or the other 2 staff. She did a terrible thing to the stylist for 20 minutes and to the other 2 staff as well, she shd reflect n nvr do tat or such things again to any other ppl. But for me, tats in the context of those 20 mins since tats the only concrete thing i hv to judge her on. She shd also nvr treat ppl as horribly as some say she did to others, but i hv no opinion/comment on wat she did in the past to others, cos its not public wat she did.

Similar but obviously not the same situations, if you dont want to comment/compare both - i respect tat n thnx.
 

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