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Having knowledge that those things were happening and participating in the conversations seems enough imo for people to want to avoid him. If she’s fine with that okay I guess but in her place i definitely wouldn’t want to really interact with him, let alone date him. Though we don’t have solid proof they’re dating either.He was part of Jung Joonyoung‘s KakaoTalk chatrooms (Burning Sun scandal) where they shared pictures and videos about women… Tho, I think it’s still confusing until today how much he was involved.
Me too, I wouldnt date someone capable of doing that yet he might have reflected on his actions but that's HyunaHaving knowledge that those things were happening and participating in the conversations seems enough imo for people to want to avoid him. If she’s fine with that okay I guess but in her place i definitely wouldn’t want to really interact with him, let alone date him. Though we don’t have solid proof they’re dating either.
I agree with you. What we can see is that people seemingly avoid him, even his ex members, which speaks a lot. Ofc, we don’t exactly know what happened, but this is a questionable choice from her, even if they are not dating, just making music together.Having knowledge that those things were happening and participating in the conversations seems enough imo for people to want to avoid him. If she’s fine with that okay I guess but in her place i definitely wouldn’t want to really interact with him, let alone date him. Though we don’t have solid proof they’re dating either.
Particularly that from what I read he said he did watch the videos and participate in conversations and admitted it himself. And he didn’t try to use the excuse that he didn’t know they were coerced, or drugged, and often filmed without their consent. His best excuse was that he didn’t realize that it’s illegal, which really isn’t the issue with doing those things. The issue is that it’s plain old wrong, legality aside. I feel that if he didn’t know those things he would have said so because he’d look better, so the fact that he didn’t address a single one of them really makes it seem like he was aware of those things and didn’t care. Might be a bit of a leap but that’s just what it seems like to me. Especially since he and the company already tried claiming he wasn’t involved at all.I agree with you. What we can see is that people seemingly avoid him, even his ex members, which speaks a lot. Ofc, we don’t exactly know what happened, but this is a questionable choice from her, even if they are not dating, just making music together.
I think there is no valid proof that he didn’t watch them, beside that he says that.Particularly that from what I read he said he did watch the videos and participate in conversations and admitted it himself. And he didn’t try to use the excuse that he didn’t know they were coerced, or drugged, and often filmed without their consent. His best excuse was that he didn’t realize that it’s illegal, which really isn’t the issue with doing those things. The issue is that it’s plain old wrong, legality aside. I feel that if he didn’t know those things he would have said so because he’d look better, so the fact that he didn’t address a single one of them really makes it seem like he was aware of those things and didn’t care. Might be a bit of a leap but that’s just what it seems like to me. Especially since he and the company already tried claiming he wasn’t involved at all.
I didn’t follow closely enough to know about proof, but generally people wouldn’t lie and claim they watched a video like that when they didn’t, more likely the other way around.I think there is no valid proof that he didn’t watch them, beside that he says that.
Also, he could easily quit that chats, but he didn’t do it which means that morally, he had no problems with that kind of contents. He tried to save his own ass with cheap excuses, but he is as bad as everybody else in that case, because he surely knew that it’s illegal and what the other guys did is criminal level. He could end all of this with calling the police, but he let his friends enjoy themselves while doing illegal stuff. I don’t have any sympathy to him.
Yeah, I agree with every words.I didn’t follow closely enough to know about proof, but generally people wouldn’t lie and claim they watched a video like that when they didn’t, more likely the other way around.
I’ve seen people claim that it was one video rather than multiple but that’s already a yikes if he watched one video and made those kinds of comments. Plus the apology was ignoring the actual victims of the case. I highly doubt he’s as bad as Jonghoon or JJY but it shouldn’t be a congratulations for not being like them, so I don’t get defending him after that just because he wasn’t as bad. Or, in Hyunas case, associating with them, whether a collab or dating.
I agree with this statementi dont even know what to say. i mean he is is not the worst involved in that golden phone molka/burning sun scandal but still the whole thing is bit iffy 😬
I hope he has learned his lesson and stop associating himself with criminal trashes but i still hope Hyuna will be in full alert mode even tho she knows him better than anyone else here criticizing her decisions