Is Kpop starting to accept lgbt now? (1 Viewer)

[Yoohyeon]

I don't know much about male idols and BG's and if they have been including lgbtq content, but for GG's and female idols in 2020, there have been some gay-themed/undertones MV's/songs lately.

You got Irene and Seulgi, (G)I-DLE, Chungha, and now Gfriend with 'Apple'.

So, I was wondering, in your opinion, are companies starting to accept lgbtq content? Because before, there would be little to no lgbtq themed or gay undertones in MV's/songs in sight, but it seems in 2020, there has been quite a bit.

 

[honeyfornomoney]

yeah, seems like they do it for the international fans.
Also, when did Chung Ha have gay concept? o.o

 

[Yoohyeon]

yeah, seems like they do it for the international fans.
Also, when did Chung Ha have gay concept? o.o

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

This MV has lgbtq in it:

 

[blueberries]

Well there has been lgbt+ undertones before too, but maybe those are gradually increasing.

But even as early as BEG's Abracadabra there was almost kiss at the end of mv's between two members.



Then bit newer (2012), GLAM's Party XXO had pretty much LGBT+ positive lyrics

 

[Yoohyeon]

Well there has been lgbt+ undertones before too, but maybe those are gradually increasing.

But even as early as BEG's Abracadabra there was almost kiss at the end of mv's between two members.



Then bit newer (2012), GLAM's Party XXO had pretty much LGBT+ positive lyrics

Yes, I've already seen these and there are many other LGBT MV's/Songs, etc, however, has there really been this many in a short amount of time? Usually there are only 1 or 2 lgbt kpop MV's in a year if we're lucky.

 

[Belgizen]

Yes, but I'm afraid of companies misusing it. Representation is important but kpop fans sometimes overdo and push the LGBTQ concept so much, that I'm afraid that they'll just use it to lure in fans or profit from it. That's something that I find not acceptable

 

[Yoohyeon]

Yes, but I'm afraid of companies misusing it. Representation is important but kpop fans sometimes overdo and push the LGBTQ concept so much, that I'm afraid that they'll just use it to lure in fans or profit from it. That's something that I find not acceptable

You have a good point. I think as long as it brings positive representation, then I am all for it. But if it does not, then I am against it also.
Hopefully though that the idols will be able to see through companies doing it for the wrong reasons though and they refuse to do it that way.

 

[Belgizen]

You have a good point. I think as long as it brings positive representation, then I am all for it. But if it does not, then I am against it also.
Hopefully though that the idols will be able to see through companies doing it for the wrong reasons though and they refuse to do it that way.

not everyone is free in their company. Artists from AOMG have almost absolute freedom but artists from SM or YG e.g. have almost no creative freedom

 

[amourpinks]

No. Until we see a kpop idol who is openly Lgbt and won’t get discriminated against and asked to step down then lgbt won’t be accepted In kpop.

they can use as many rainbow flags at the end of the day and use lgbt people like props to make them look woke but if they can’t even help their own artists who are actually lgbt then it’s not acceptance in my book.

 

[floorange]

I don't know much about male idols and BG's and if they have been including lgbtq content, but for GG's and female idols in 2020, there have been some gay-themed/undertones MV's/songs lately.

You got Irene and Seulgi, (G)I-DLE, Chungha, and now Gfriend with 'Apple'.

So, I was wondering, in your opinion, are companies starting to accept lgbtq content? Because before, there would be little to no lgbtq themed or gay undertones in MV's/songs in sight, but it seems in 2020, there has been quite a bit.

Hopefully. I'm scared it might just be more of a new "trend" that's starting to happen that's not about supporting but profiting off lgbt like its a trend. But I really hope I'm wrong and there starting to be more accepting. Only time will tell.

 

[Yoohyeon]

No. Until we see a kpop idol who is openly Lgbt and won’t get discriminated against and asked to step down then lgbt won’t be accepted In kpop.

they can use as many rainbow flags at the end of the day and use lgbt people like props to make them look woke but if they can’t even help their own artists who are actually lgbt then it’s not acceptance in my book.

Well, if you put it that way then you are correct but I think that as long as they don't misrepresent and take small steps towards lgbt positivity, then that is something imo.

 

[eclipsoul]

there is a difference between genuine acceptance and making gay themed music videos. k-pop companies or even idols can still be homophobic and use lgbt undertones as a part of fanservice. i love all the songs given as examples but unfortunately i doubt that if an idol came out as gay the reaction would be as positive as it is for these songs/mvs. but it's still better than nothing so i guess i'll take what i can get.

 

[mysteric]

I feel like companies are more open to the idea of having lgbtq undertones, but I don’t think they’re any more open tbh
It was only a few years ago that SNH48’ MV for Uza was banned for implying a lesbian couple

 

[Yoohyeon]

I feel like companies are more open to the idea of having lgbtq undertones, but I don’t think they’re any more open tbh
It was only a few years ago that SNH48’ MV for Uza was banned for implying a lesbian couple

That's true, however, things are slowly changing overtime, so I think if they produce more meaningful lgbt content that represents in a good light, then I think that eventually, acceptance will come.
There is still such a long way to go though.

 

[Suzy]

Hasn't this always been a thing in K-Pop though? Maybe not in their MVs but K-pop idols have always been doing skinship (hugging, holding hands, kissing even) and baiting fans into shipping them since K-Pop first became a thing. The only difference now is that they're just also doing it in their music videos. But is featuring it in MVs to make i-fans happy considered acceptance? I'm not too sure. They could literally just be doing it for hype and views.
But that said, I do agree that idols these days are much more open about it. There are plenty who have publicly shown their support and others who have said things in their concerts or fanmeets. I'm not sure if they're more accepting as a whole but I think idols are more aware of it because of their large international following these days.

 

[Abeamus]

When you compare how much progress has been made in gender, race and sexual equality in the US then you can see that sexual equality made more progress in a shorter amount of time.

There will of couse come a point where it would need to be publicly accepted as a whole to make real progress but I think it's getting people more used to the idea and will make it relatively fast when that moment does finally happen.

 

[Ashla_K]

Well there has been lgbt+ undertones before too, but maybe those are gradually increasing.

But even as early as BEG's Abracadabra there was almost kiss at the end of mv's between two members.



Then bit newer (2012), GLAM's Party XXO had pretty much LGBT+ positive lyrics

I was about to say this, Kpop has never rejected LGBTQ+ before, I think they've become more open about it and I would say Korean Society as well. Of course, they still pretty much conservative but they're not hiding it or trying to deny it.

 

[Lovely_Cornchips]

Is it weird that I didn't see most of these as gay???? O.o

The rep in them with back up dancers and lyrics maybe (I don't know the lyrics) but the SeulgiXIrene one I don't really get??? Same with Apple?

Also I'm pretty sure G (IDLE's one was about goddesses or something not necessarily lesbians???

 

[Lovely_Cornchips]

But if you are looking for a good sensual LGBT+ music video here is my personal favorite

 

[Yoohyeon]

Is it weird that I didn't see most of these as gay???? O.o

The rep in them with back up dancers and lyrics maybe (I don't know the lyrics) but the SeulgiXIrene one I don't really get??? Same with Apple?

Also I'm pretty sure G (IDLE's one was about goddesses or something not necessarily lesbians???

Seulrene's MV is referenced to a couple of lesbian movies, one of them being The Handmaiden which is a Korean Lesbian movie.

This is the English Version of (G)I-DLE's Oh My God, the lyrics are different and more sexual: