NCT OPINIONS - Not for the weak hearted xD - (4 Viewers)

[JJbaker]

Only things you cant say =
- NCT SHOULD NEVER ADDED MORE MEMBERS - THEY SHOULD SPLIT UP - NCT should stay fixed now -

Plus your opinion must have reasoning behind it ...can be good or bad...

Mine =
Jisung is behind all the other dreamies - He still isnt a strong rapper I somewhat think sm thought he was going be a vocalist what lead him to be behind

Mark and Haechan should of graduated after GO! - They wernt really needed for we go up plus 127 should of had a full year of promotions without members double lapping now that never will happen due to wayv

Wayv should have nct in the name - its not like exo cbx didn't have exo in there name and other groups do well in china its not like they had no chance in china with nct in there name...

SM missed out - they should of debuted NCT with more deserve group with darker members and mixed members

Too many Koreans - I know its kpop but if they are just going add Koreans into 127 there is too many plus they needed at least 1 more Japanese member in 127 i feel

Yuta should not enter the Japanese unit - if they want to keep promoting nct 127 in japan they should not put yuta i a Japanese unit..

SM needs to add more foreign members soon - As sm seems to be pushing nct in america they need more English speaking members plus at least 2 white mixed members I KNOW KPOP FANS DONT LIKE MIXED MEMBERS THAT MUCH BUT NON KPOP FANS DO SOOO IT HELPS CAUSE ITS NOT JUST A GROUP OF PURE ASIANS...

Chenle and Renjun should not enter wayv = if every Chinese member is in wayv there will be no Chinese members in NCT and it will seem like there trying push them all out

Dreamies needs to have 9-12 members this year - if they want more units with the members being more known sm needs to add them into dream as nct u they kinda put them in there for 1 comeback and thats it but with dream the members can be in there years and produce a fan base

DREAM MEMBERS NEED TO RAP OR SING no more dancers - sorry but sm fucked up with jaemin jeno and jisung - 2 visuals and a dancer in a unit where members leave.... yes i love dreamies jaemin is also my bias BUT dreamies should be able to hold there own if you cant see them doing a solo they shouldn't be in dream as dream should be able to survive with only 2 members ​

 

[Lighterxx]

honestly thing i notice most is how sm focuses solely on visuals atm, goddammit train them, otherwise they are just models standing around on stage, make them sing or rap, not just dance ffs

 

[maruberry]

Only things you cant say =
- NCT SHOULD NEVER ADDED MORE MEMBERS - THEY SHOULD SPLIT UP - NCT should stay fixed now -

Plus your opinion must have reasoning behind it ...can be good or bad...

Mine =
Jisung is behind all the other dreamies - He still isnt a strong rapper I somewhat think sm thought he was going be a vocalist what lead him to be behind

Mark and Haechan should of graduated after GO! - They wernt really needed for we go up plus 127 should of had a full year of promotions without members double lapping now that never will happen due to wayv

Wayv should have nct in the name - its not like exo cbx didn't have exo in there name and other groups do well in china its not like they had no chance in china with nct in there name...

SM missed out - they should of debuted NCT with more deserve group with darker members and mixed members

Too many Koreans - I know its kpop but if they are just going add Koreans into 127 there is too many plus they needed at least 1 more Japanese member in 127 i feel

Yuta should not enter the Japanese unit - if they want to keep promoting nct 127 in japan they should not put yuta i a Japanese unit..

SM needs to add more foreign members soon - As sm seems to be pushing nct in america they need more English speaking members plus at least 2 white mixed members I KNOW KPOP FANS DONT LIKE MIXED MEMBERS THAT MUCH BUT NON KPOP FANS DO SOOO IT HELPS CAUSE ITS NOT JUST A GROUP OF PURE ASIANS...

Chenle and Renjun should not enter wayv = if every Chinese member is in wayv there will be no Chinese members in NCT and it will seem like there trying push them all out

Dreamies needs to have 9-12 members this year - if they want more units with the members being more known sm needs to add them into dream as nct u they kinda put them in there for 1 comeback and thats it but with dream the members can be in there years and produce a fan base

DREAM MEMBERS NEED TO RAP OR SING no more dancers - sorry but sm fucked up with jaemin jeno and jisung - 2 visuals and a dancer in a unit where members leave.... yes i love dreamies jaemin is also my bias BUT dreamies should be able to hold there own if you cant see them doing a solo they shouldn't be in dream as dream should be able to survive with only 2 members ​

Replies to your opinions:

I think Chenle and Renjun should go to china. Chenle especially, because him not going would be wasted potential. And leaving Renjun behind would be pointless. They can just add new chinese members.

I agree that Dream needs new members, exactly due to the fact that 3 out of 6 members are dancers/visuals. Jaemin's rap is getting acceptable these days, so 1 good main rapper would be enough.

I think there isn't too many koreans. They can go into foreign units, the only reason wayV has no Korean members is because China doesn't like koreans!


My opinions:

Dream needs at least 3 members this year. But in that case they will need to add 3 more next year aswell

Chenle and Renjun have to be moved to china after graduation. Chenle because he already has a beginning made there from his childhood and even though it hurts to say this, China doesn't care about visuals as much. Renjun because if Chenle is moved and Renjun isn't things will get messy with the fans.

They need to start adding more foreign members. I think they should start with some Vietnamese or more Thai members etc. Not necessarily english speakers, because an american/european sub-unit definetly isn't the next one.

 

[JJbaker]

Replies to your opinions:

I think Chenle and Renjun should go to china. Chenle especially, because him not going would be wasted potential. And leaving Renjun behind would be pointless. They can just add new chinese members.

I agree that Dream needs new members, exactly due to the fact that 3 out of 6 members are dancers/visuals. Jaemin's rap is getting acceptable these days, so 1 good main rapper would be enough.

I think there isn't too many koreans. They can go into foreign units, the only reason wayV has no Korean members is because China doesn't like koreans!


My opinions:

Dream needs at least 3 members this year. But in that case they will need to add 3 more next year aswell

Chenle and Renjun have to be moved to china after graduation. Chenle because he already has a beginning made there from his childhood and even though it hurts to say this, China doesn't care about visuals as much. Renjun because if Chenle is moved and Renjun isn't things will get messy with the fans.

They need to start adding more foreign members. I think they should start with some Vietnamese or more Thai members etc. Not necessarily English speakers, because an american/European sub-unit definitely isn't the next one.

I dont think chenle wants to go into wayv tbh ..my reasoning = he has brought a home in Korea = he was famous as a soloist in china before nct but choose to become a kpop star = if he wanted to be famous in china he would of just stayed to start with..

but sm seems to be just putting Koreans into 127 and slowly turning 127 in pure Korean unit if they add jaemin and jeno it will be too much tbh

The south east Asia unit will be English speaking as thats the common language across Asia << this unit would be the best next unit in my opinion also as nct isn't in these country's yet nct japan isn't needed right now as 127 is doing well there

 

[JJbaker]

honestly thing i notice most is how sm focuses solely on visuals atm, goddammit train them, otherwise they are just models standing around on stage, make them sing or rap, not just dance ffs

I strongly agree tbh sm fucked up with alot of the members tbh visuals and dancers isnt needed hasnt be prioty in kpop for a while tbh it helps but it need to be 80 talent 20 visual and dancers

 

[joshuaology]

• Sm should stop copying AKB48
• ** ** **** ****
• Their music quality went downhill
• Something I forgot

 

[JJbaker]

• Sm should stop copying AKB48
• ** ** ****
• Their music quality went downhill
• Something I forgot

well i agree to disagree they need to stop copying the just adding members if they dont want to do the variety part
akb48 only does well cause they aim to connect to fans what nct is lacking so much atm

 

[Lighterxx]

I strongly agree tbh sm fucked up with alot of the members tbh visuals and dancers isnt needed hasnt be prioty in kpop for a while tbh it helps but it need to be 80 talent 20 visual and dancers

EXACTLY, visuals priority was at past, now its just a bonus!! For boygroups especially its extremely important for one to show talent. That is how Korea recognizes them, not with how handsome they are. Handsome guys are everywhere, models, actors, at least they earn better or work less that idols, for an idol to not being able to sing or rap at least average, is like a model not being able to walk on a straight line... They need to dig that talent out of them, for all the praise i hear for SM training, they seem to not use those on NCT....

 

[maruberry]

I dont think chenle wants to go into wayv tbh ..my reasoning = he has brought a home in Korea = he was famous as a soloist in china before nct but choose to become a kpop star = if he wanted to be famous in china he would of just stayed to start with..

but sm seems to be just putting Koreans into 127 and slowly turning 127 in pure Korean unit if they add jaemin and jeno it will be too much tbh

The south east Asia unit will be English speaking as thats the common language across Asia << this unit would be the best next unit in my opinion also as nct isn't in these country's yet nct japan isn't needed right now as 127 is doing well there

I think the house was bought because his parents didn't want to leave him alone in korea.

 

[JJbaker]

I think the house was bought because his parents didn't want to leave him alone in korea.

but why would you leave china when you are already selling out concerts as a soloist going on tv shows being in musicals etc to go into a rookie kpop group if you didnt want to be a kpop star he could of signed with a chinese label if he wanted to

 

[JJbaker]

EXACTLY, visuals priority was at past, now its just a bonus!! For boygroups especially its extremely important for one to show talent. That is how Korea recognizes them, not with how handsome they are. Handsome guys are everywhere, models, actors, at least they earn better or work less that idols, for an idol to not being able to sing or rap at least average, is like a model not being able to walk on a straight line... They need to dig that talent out of them, for all the praise i hear for SM training, they seem to not use those on NCT....

Honnestly its sad tbh cause there is members we just assume can sing because surely sm didnt debut a idol to not be able to sing cause ive got to the point i think winwin cant sing at all cause surely if he could they would of given him lines by now specially how the fans are acting

I think sm will learn the hard way tbh cause i think haechan has more fans than winwin now

 

[Lighterxx]

Honnestly its sad tbh cause there is members we just assume can sing because surely sm didnt debut a idol to not be able to sing cause ive got to the point i think winwin cant sing at all cause surely if he could they would of given him lines by now specially how the fans are acting

I think sm will learn the hard way tbh cause i think haechan has more fans than winwin now

exactly, i know sm wants to collect trainees that other companies might want, but its absurd if you cant teach them

 

[maruberry]

but why would you leave china when you are already selling out concerts as a soloist going on tv shows being in musicals etc to go into a rookie kpop group if you didnt want to be a kpop star he could of signed with a chinese label if he wanted to

Because being trained in Korea has a certain prestige in China. If you watch idol Producer you will see how they will exitedly talk about how somebody trained overseas (code for Korea in Chinese TV)

The cpop training system is not as developed and it is WAAAAAY harder to get popular in china. If you sign to SM, it is much easier to get popular in china than it is signing to a label over there.

 

[JJbaker]

exactly, i know sm wants to collect trainees that other companies might want, but its absurd if you cant teach them

Hoping they start picking up trainees with stupidly strong vocals cause there isnt one in nct tbh

 

[onedaily]

Only things you cant say =
- NCT SHOULD NEVER ADDED MORE MEMBERS - THEY SHOULD SPLIT UP - NCT should stay fixed now -

Plus your opinion must have reasoning behind it ...can be good or bad...

Mine =
Jisung is behind all the other dreamies - He still isnt a strong rapper I somewhat think sm thought he was going be a vocalist what lead him to be behind

Mark and Haechan should of graduated after GO! - They wernt really needed for we go up plus 127 should of had a full year of promotions without members double lapping now that never will happen due to wayv

Wayv should have nct in the name - its not like exo cbx didn't have exo in there name and other groups do well in china its not like they had no chance in china with nct in there name...

SM missed out - they should of debuted NCT with more deserve group with darker members and mixed members

Too many Koreans - I know its kpop but if they are just going add Koreans into 127 there is too many plus they needed at least 1 more Japanese member in 127 i feel

Yuta should not enter the Japanese unit - if they want to keep promoting nct 127 in japan they should not put yuta i a Japanese unit..

SM needs to add more foreign members soon - As sm seems to be pushing nct in america they need more English speaking members plus at least 2 white mixed members I KNOW KPOP FANS DONT LIKE MIXED MEMBERS THAT MUCH BUT NON KPOP FANS DO SOOO IT HELPS CAUSE ITS NOT JUST A GROUP OF PURE ASIANS...

Chenle and Renjun should not enter wayv = if every Chinese member is in wayv there will be no Chinese members in NCT and it will seem like there trying push them all out

Dreamies needs to have 9-12 members this year - if they want more units with the members being more known sm needs to add them into dream as nct u they kinda put them in there for 1 comeback and thats it but with dream the members can be in there years and produce a fan base

DREAM MEMBERS NEED TO RAP OR SING no more dancers - sorry but sm fucked up with jaemin jeno and jisung - 2 visuals and a dancer in a unit where members leave.... yes i love dreamies jaemin is also my bias BUT dreamies should be able to hold there own if you cant see them doing a solo they shouldn't be in dream as dream should be able to survive with only 2 members ​

This is my opinion

Point 1. yes

Point 2. go is released in Q1 2018, maybe they wanted mark to stay until Q4 2018

Point 3. yes

Point 4. no

Point 5. idk, darker member like who?

Point 6. my speculation, 127 will stop promote in jp, when nct jp rise.

Point 7. i see ur point but literally nct (include wayv) have more foreign than korean.. but based on lsm plan, sm will add more foreign members. And this is irrelevant because see what bts doin, with all korean.

Point 8. if they are not join wayv, where should they go to? 127, no.. uhm i love to see them in 127, but more than 10 members in unit is too much. (for me)

Point 9. i think sm will add member(s) slowly, maybe 2 or 3 to dream this year.

Point 10. yes true, but are we underestimate jaemin, jeno, jisung? Maybe they just got overshadowed by multitalented mark and unique voice haechan, duo great chinese vocal... hope to see more about triple J this year.

Edit: need to give "space" for more easy to read

 

[Lighterxx]

Hoping they start picking up trainees with stupidly strong vocals cause there isnt one in nct tbh

STREETCAST A DK SM

 

[JJbaker]

This is my opinion

Point 1. yes

Point 2. go is released in Q1 2018, maybe they wanted mark to stay until Q4 2018

Point 3. yes

Point 4. no

Point 5. idk, darker member like who?

Point 6. my speculation, 127 will stop promote in jp, when nct jp rise.

Point 7. i see ur point but literally nct (include wayv) have more foreign than korean.. but based on lsm plan, sm will add more foreign members. And this is irrelevant because see what bts doin, with all korean.

Point 8. if they are not join wayv, where should they go to? 127, no.. uhm i love to see them in 127, but more than 10 members in unit is too much. (for me)

Point 9. i think sm will add member(s) slowly, maybe 2 or 3 to dream this year.

Point 10. yes true, but are we underestimate jaemin, jeno, jisung? Maybe they just got overshadowed by multitalented mark and unique voice haechan, duo great chinese vocal... hope to see more about triple J this year.

Edit: need to give "space" for more easy to read

5. Lucas has the darkest Natural skin in NCT but he is still very light compared to some asians specially from thailand so if NCT is going push in countrys what are darker skinned they will eventually have to have darker skinned members so i feel like it better to do it early on then when they have to and its seem a bit more obv

6. I think 127 will always promote everywhere they can as they are the main group of nct and the face of nct so sm will want them to do the best they can everywhere

8. I see them joining the new korean unit tbh as what i see happening for example... NCT Busan [129] = Lucas - 1999 - Yangyang Jaemin Jeno Renjun - 2000 - Chenle 2001 - Jisung - 2002 = Plus a new korean member who is born in - 1999 - 2001- 2001 - 2002 [i cant see there being a younger member then jisung in this unit as there big thing in the fandom of keeping him a maknae]

10 - none of them can sing and they havent been able to rap for the first 3 comebacks - jeno was able to by joy - jisung didnt get lines in joy so imma have say 4 and jaemin is unknown but we know he was very auto tuned in chewing gum
But lets not forget sm doesnt always sign for talent..
Jeno, Jaemin are visuals [jeno was a kid model before nct] and Jisung was 100% signed for dancing he admits to it everywhere

 

[feepit]

They should still copy AKB48 even with the elections. This is one of the reasons why AKB sold 50M albums without the huge international clout that KPOP groups have. That and handshake events.

 

[JJbaker]

They should still copy AKB48 even with the elections. This is one of the reasons why AKB sold 50M albums without the huge international clout that KPOP groups have. That and handshake events.

I agree NCT needs to promote individual members but maybe in a way that wont make least popular members show as i honnestly wouldnt buy multiple albums but at same time would be sad if jaemin was lowest member..
Maybe in the same way could have buying multiple albums to attend handshake event where all members are...

i.e
In every album you get a nct coin.. you need 21 coins to attend the event... at smtown stage place.. obv nct doesnt realise 21 albums a year so to attend you would have to double up albums somewhere..

Wih promoting members they need to push more solo work like jaemin with his tv show and members going on more set talent variety shows like jisung on dance shows...and maybe nct members being teachers on shows like produce 101 and more and more solo songs or duets with non korean artist

 

[onedaily]

5. Lucas has the darkest Natural skin in NCT but he is still very light compared to some asians specially from thailand so if NCT is going push in countrys what are darker skinned they will eventually have to have darker skinned members so i feel like it better to do it early on then when they have to and its seem a bit more obv

6. I think 127 will always promote everywhere they can as they are the main group of nct and the face of nct so sm will want them to do the best they can everywhere

8. I see them joining the new korean unit tbh as what i see happening for example... NCT Busan [129] = Lucas - 1999 - Yangyang Jaemin Jeno Renjun - 2000 - Chenle 2001 - Jisung - 2002 = Plus a new korean member who is born in - 1999 - 2001- 2001 - 2002 [i cant see there being a younger member then jisung in this unit as there big thing in the fandom of keeping him a maknae]

10 - none of them can sing and they havent been able to rap for the first 3 comebacks - jeno was able to by joy - jisung didnt get lines in joy so imma have say 4 and jaemin is unknown but we know he was very auto tuned in chewing gum
But lets not forget sm doesnt always sign for talent..
Jeno, Jaemin are visuals [jeno was a kid model before nct] and Jisung was 100% signed for dancing he admits to it everywhere

:pepesalut:
i see ur concern now,
i hope sm will cast new vocal member(s)

for new korean unit, i hope so.. but based on lsm plan, they'll focusing on foreign nct unit first ~ i can't read his mind tho