One Sentence K-Pop Opinions PII (1 Viewer)

[kisshuhua09baby]

1. Judging dancers/rappers on their ability to hit notes like Mariah is silly and unnecessary
2. Stray Kids' music quality has been going up since Case 143
3. Good line distribution doesn't mean everyone gets the same line amount
4. I love Momo and Tzu but adding them to TWICE when they weren't originally meant to make the debut was unfair
5. As a minor it's okay to find minor idols attractive (yes i've actually argued with ppl over this)
6. Adult idols being forced into sexy concepts isn't talked about enough bc K-Pop stans just assume that being adults means they want to be sexualized
7. Some of you "fans" are straight-up sexually harassing idols on these fan calls and it's gross
8. JYP needs to stop debuting groups and care for his existing ones
9. SuperShy was trash but it's NewJeans so we're all supposed to pretend it's the best song ever
10. Stray Kids have the most versatility with concepts in 4th gen
11. Han wasn't racist for his rap, just ignorant and dumb like most 13yos are
12. Batter Up by BaeMon is the child of Crazy Over You and Money that should not exist
13. Katie Aegi isn't as bad as people make her out to be
14. The tokenization of Gaeul and Liz from IVE should be studied
15. Stays baby Felix like this man doesn't have over 60 taekwondo medals
16. Hwasa fans and MooMoos are the biggest pick-mes ever

 

[Horizonshard]

So you would have preferred that Twice stay as 7 members, like originally planned?

Or that two other different members were added to make the 9?

 

[Moguri]

4. I love Momo and Tzu but adding them to TWICE when they weren't originally meant to make the debut was unfair

to who?

 

[Moguri]

8. JYP needs to stop debuting groups and care for his existing ones

how do they not take care?

 

[Moguri]

14. The tokenization of Gaeul and Liz from IVE should be studied

what does that mean..??

 

[kisshuhua09baby]

So you would have preferred that Twice stay as 7 members, like originally planned?

Or that two other different members were added to make the 9?

I think that in a perfect world, Momo and Tzuyu would have been on the major team instead of the minor team anyway

 

[kisshuhua09baby]

to who?

To the other contestants because while the other girls on the minor team weren't the best they still had potential like Eun-suh and Jiwon so you can only imagine how much their hearts dropped out of their chests seeing them get into the debut lineup when they weren't technically supposed to

 

[kisshuhua09baby]

how do they not take care?

Xdinary Heroes are collecting dust on the shelf aside from every century or so when they come back, NMIXX is having an identity crisis worse than a teenage girl in the 10th grade, and ITZY I don't even know because in the span of a year we when from 5 members to 4 to 3 to 4 again[/QUOTE]

 

[kisshuhua09baby]

Xdinary Heroes are collecting dust on the shelf aside from every century or so when they come back, NMIXX is having an identity crisis worse than a teenage girl in the 10th grade, and ITZY I don't even know because in a year we went from 5 members to 4 to 3 to 4 again

 

[Moguri]

To the other contestants because while the other girls on the minor team weren't the best they still had potential like Eun-suh and Jiwon so you can only imagine how much their hearts dropped out of their chests seeing them get into the debut lineup when they weren't technically supposed to

if Momo and Tzuyu stayed elimiated, the others would still have stayed eliminated too.. no one is beneftig in this scenario

 

[Moguri]

Xdinary Heroes are collecting dust on the shelf aside from every century or so when they come back, NMIXX is having an identity crisis worse than a teenage girl in the 10th grade, and ITZY I don't even know because in the span of a year we when from 5 members to 4 to 3 to 4 again

I don't follow the group, so I checked to make sure your statement is correct, but its not true at all... They had 2 EPs this year and got 3 M/Vs. The last EP was released only 2 month ago. They also had 2 EPs last year, that was their debut year.

Whatever is going on with NMIXX maybe a lack of direction or vision for the group, but in the end its just a personal preference to like it or not, its not like they do not promote them.

So you believe Itzy members would suffer less health related issue if JYP had less groups?

 

[Moguri]

I think this was supposed to be the answer to the token thingy? You ended up quoting yourself and not adding any answer

 

[Horizonshard]

I think that in a perfect world, Momo and Tzuyu would have been on the major team instead of the minor team anyway

But that’s not what I asked.

Would you have preferred Twice stay as 7 members as originally planned?

Or, when it was upped to 9 members, would you have wanted other members instead of Momo and Tzuyu?

 

[kisshuhua09baby]

So you believe Itzy members would suffer less health related issue if JYP had less groups?
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No in general what I mean is ITZY isn't being managed right and that's mostly JYP's fault. They just had a tour ffor Chesire then had to go on GMM I'm pretty sure and then had to do cake and Ringo and they're already doing work for comebacks again and Ringo was just in September. I'm not saying he caused their health issues but he's certainly not helping and because of how he left ITZY on the backburner for so long he's going overtime trying to make up for it but the efforts aren't fully permanent

 

[kisshuhua09baby]

But that’s not what I asked.

Would you have preferred Twice stay as 7 members as originally planned?

Or, when it was upped to 9 members, would you have wanted other members instead of Momo and Tzuyu?

Yeah I probably would have preferred Twice to stay as 7 plus Momo and Tzuyu would have had opportunities in or out of JYP regardless because they're both very talented

 

[Horizonshard]

Yeah I probably would have preferred Twice to stay as 7 plus Momo and Tzuyu would have had opportunities in or out of JYP regardless because they're both very talented

I think that 7 person group wouldn't have succeeded.

Multiple times members have thanked Tzuyu for being in the group because she was a stan attractor for many people to first check out the group. She was also voted most popular by the public, so it was obvious the general audience wanted her in the group.

As for Momo, she's arguably the best female dancer of her generation. But, more than that, her being in the group made them have three Japanese members, which had never happened before. Having a strong J-line helped catapult them in the Japanese market too.

So I see the reason that both of them were added in the end, and that they were added as additional members, instead of in place of anyone else.

 

[kisshuhua09baby]

I think that 7 person group wouldn't have succeeded.

Multiple times members have thanked Tzuyu for being in the group because she was a stan attractor for many people to first check out the group. She was also voted most popular by the public, so it was obvious the general audience wanted her in the group.

As for Momo, she's arguably the best female dancer of her generation. But, more than that, her being in the group made them have three Japanese members, which had never happened before. Having a strong J-line helped catapult them in the Japanese market too.

So I see the reason that both of them were added in the end, and that they were added as additional members, instead of in place of anyone else.

I get that but I think if they were gonna be added anyway JYP should have put them in the Major team before the final episode

 

[Horizonshard]

I get that but I think if they were gonna be added anyway JYP should have put them in the Major team before the final episode

The major team was only 7 people. (thus the original group supposed to be 7).

So which two current members of Twice would you prefer to be two that were added in at the end to make 9?

 

[alo]

1. Judging dancers/rappers on their ability to hit notes like Mariah is silly and unnecessary
2. Stray Kids' music quality has been going up since Case 143
3. Good line distribution doesn't mean everyone gets the same line amount
4. I love Momo and Tzu but adding them to TWICE when they weren't originally meant to make the debut was unfair
5. As a minor it's okay to find minor idols attractive (yes i've actually argued with ppl over this)
6. Adult idols being forced into sexy concepts isn't talked about enough bc K-Pop stans just assume that being adults means they want to be sexualized
7. Some of you "fans" are straight-up sexually harassing idols on these fan calls and it's gross
8. JYP needs to stop debuting groups and care for his existing ones
9. SuperShy was trash but it's NewJeans so we're all supposed to pretend it's the best song ever
10. Stray Kids have the most versatility with concepts in 4th gen
11. Han wasn't racist for his rap, just ignorant and dumb like most 13yos are
12. Batter Up by BaeMon is the child of Crazy Over You and Money that should not exist
13. Katie Aegi isn't as bad as people make her out to be
14. The tokenization of Gaeul and Liz from IVE should be studied
15. Stays baby Felix like this man doesn't have over 60 taekwondo medals
16. Hwasa fans and MooMoos are the biggest pick-mes ever

1. i agree
2. no comments
3. i agree
4. it may have been unfair, but it was reality tv. it made good tv for viewers. what was originally supposed to be a 7 membered group adding two members, one eliminated but with great potential, and one based on the audience's "choice" (never trust these things on reality shows... it made good tv. plus it helped in twice's success because they needed a stan attractor like tzuyu and a strong dancer like momo. and, as an aside - you mention jiwon, and yes, talent-wise she was ready. but tbh as a flover and a once (rare breed, ik) i don't think jiwon was ready back then - simply because i don't think she had really developed variety-wise. dahyun was already the "variety member", the one jype could send onto a million reality tv shows to give twice some name by doing the eagle dance, showing ff her flexibility, or generally being entertaining and a good conversationalist. jiwon would become that later on for fromis, but she hadn't become that yet in time for twice. jiwon is naturally very introverted and a major homebody. i honestly see "megan" as her super funny, super extra alter ego. megan hadn't been born yet in 2015, plain and simple.
5. actually, i agree (as another minor).
6. well, true. but i think kpop idol aspirants should be made aware long before they consider entering the agency as a trainee that when they debut, their image and concept would be decided by a company looking for profits, and that they would be given whatever concept the company sees fit. we should shed light on the industry's practices such that people are a bit more aware and can make better choices for themselves. but yeah i agree tbh, no one should be forced to do sexy concepts, even adults.
7. oh i agree
8. no comments
9. i disagree, just replace super shy with any other song on get up (with the exception of eta) and i'd agree
10. no comments
11. no comments
12. i agree
13. no comments
14. i agree... actual dives wouldn't get it (because they appreciate all 6 members as they should), but tbh as someone who isn't a dive, i can see it :/ happens in a ton of fandoms tbh
15. no comments
16. i disagree, but no further comments

 

[Moguri]

No in general what I mean is ITZY isn't being managed right and that's mostly JYP's fault. They just had a tour ffor Chesire then had to go on GMM I'm pretty sure and then had to do cake and Ringo and they're already doing work for comebacks again and Ringo was just in September. I'm not saying he caused their health issues but he's certainly not helping and because of how he left ITZY on the backburner for so long he's going overtime trying to make up for it but the efforts aren't fully permanent

this is the same again as with Xindary Hereos, you just claim they have been on the backburner, but when did this ever happen?

You make enough valid points, so I don't understand why you have to make up more issues that can be proven to be false just by looking at their discrogaphy