Rapping requires more natural talent than singing or dancing (1 Viewer)

[Bless_Me_Achoo]

So I was just thinking about this.
If someone is naturally bad or average at singing they can improve with practice and hard work.
For example: Predebut, Jaejoong was tone deaf, but he managed to improve so much that he was considered one of the top vocalists in Kpop.
Also, Taemin showed a huge improvement from debut until today.
For dancing, even idols who don't have any natural ability are able to follow choreography decently.
Whereas with rapping if someone has no natural talent it's very difficult for them to improve drastically.
If someone can't rap even with practice it would be very difficult to become a decent rapper.

What's your opinion?
Please don't argue or bash any idols though~​

 

[Administrator2]

I disagree. Rapping requires breath and tone control, but nowhere near as much as high note producing. Rapping is indeed a skill, but I would not compare its difficulty to singing. The harsh truth is that idols who are not good at singing get assigned rapper roles. 95% of rappers in idol industries are not rappers, they are people who rap.

 

[bulletproof]

Hmm I would say that rapping requires a lot of charisma, indeed, but the technique can be practiced. I think the vocal training is more difficult

 

[Bless_Me_Achoo]

I disagree. Rapping requires breath and tone control, but nowhere near as much as high note producing. Rapping is indeed a skill, but I would not compare its difficulty to singing. The harsh truth is that idols who are not good at singing get assigned rapper roles. 95% of rappers in idol industries are not rappers, they are people who rap.

That's kinda what I mean though. Like even if they're taught how to rap, they're just rapping but that's it. They still wouldn't be considered good at it or they're not particularly skilled.

 

[Ahsoka]

I don't agree either, it's about how hard you try to improve really. Like for your example, Ravi was a pretty terrible rapper when Vixx debuted and now he's pretty good. Imo it's like singing or dancing, it's something that some people are naturally talented at but it can also be taught and improved

 

[yeji]

rap is art. a true rapper isn't just speaking the lines, a true rapper writes their own verses, usues their own flow, charisma and stage presence to their adventage.
I really hate how rapping is viewed like less of a talent. it's all due to companies feeling the need to add us[eless rap like lines for people who don't even care about the craft itself. that's also a major reason why underground rappers aren't much fans of idols.

for real compare a sm rapper to someone like dpr live, BewhY or Superbee with each other and you can see how much passion with rap goes into the songs of those khh rappers.

 

[Wicked]

Idk about that, really. J-Hope had no background in rap at all. He was a street dancer, not a rapper. However, he’s improved so drastically that he’s now capable of producing his own album and raps quite well. He’s not RM or Suga level, but he’s still great.

I think the real talent comes from writing great verses, and being able to create their own flows, etc.

Since it’s easy to pretend with just your voice alone and some handholding.

I think the same goes for dancers. It’s easy to follow a choreographed dance, etc. But it takes true talent to be able to choreograph the dances yourself or create a beautiful dance on the spot on your own (that actually looks good.) It is extremely easy to spot an actual talented dancer amongst those who are just following along with the movements.

i think saying one thing requiring more talent than another is rather flawed.

 

[chilloutdiana]

I agree with most of the previous replies, but rap does require more raw talent. Raw as in the ability to quickly catch onto rhythm, understand the basics of word-play, notice difference in tone, etc.

All skills take time and hard-work; looking at the aspects of it, they're more difficult depending on their category.

Dance: (channel the right 'energy' or 'vibe' with emotion and kinesthetic-ability)
Singing: (breath control/diaphragm usage and channel the suitable emotion through song)
Rap: (breath control/diaphragm and channel your emotion, thoughts, and experiences into words/verses bent to your unique timing and fits the beat you have)

Some people may not be good at rap to begin with, as they don't have experience putting those things to the next level and produce their own complete, original style, first-thing, but it can be learned, as @Jimin points out with J-Hope. I've yet to see a rapper who developed better skills in rap be 100% unable to keep a simple rhythm or understand word-play when they first started out.

Further example, J-Hope and Jimin are both dancers first. That's their first-learned and primary skill. Hoseok was deemed a rapper and was taught by practiced, previously-underground, amazing rappers, RM and Suga. He survived and surpassed. All he had was his ability to keep time with a beat and tone-recognition. Now he's just as good (IMO) as RM and Suga.

Jimin was deemed a singer, as he never had an interest for rap as a main talent. But using the same methodology, he has been shown to be able to rap as well. Not to the same scale, but we've all seen him rap alongside Suga (Tony Montana), and BTS (Vocal-line rapping Ddaeng 5th Muster)

lmfao sorry for the rant it's like 2 a.m. im sorry