Reality vs Virtual Reality Debate (1 Viewer)

[Dolche]

Mankind who has come so far with his many inventions, what we will he create next?

Many say the next step is artificial intelligence and virtual reality.

The problem that with the creation of virtual reality, is that I believe our very basis of what we define “reality” as will be shaken.

This invention will be probably life-changing, it is the devil’s weapon that alters our very perception of the world and society.

Imagine what the world would be like in the future with the creation of a complete virtual reality.

In a virtual reality, you would have everything. Money, friends, lovers, status; all that good stuff that we desire so much. Technology would have advanced so far that you would not know the difference between reality and a fake reality.

And then ask yourself: in such a situation, which is more important to you- “reality, or a fake version of reality?”

Would people still be happy if they lived in a world of illusion? The answer is that, they would. Many would.

In mid-2018, the World Health Organization added “video gaming disorder” to its revision of the International Classification of Diseases.

In my country, people have failed getting into university because of gaming too much.

There will be more people in the future, younger generations who do not know the terrors of technology, it’s adverse effects on the body and mind.

This topic is direly in need of discussion. People need to realize that before there will be serious consequences to humanity.

What can we do? Think about it, create laws, change education, like we have done up till now. We should deliberate our steps, because we can.

Let’s discuss.

My question is- “would you deceive yourself to live a life of happiness ignorant of the truth?”

 

[Dolche]

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@Azukiiro @la_mort_pour_vous @Chahee @Skinnny @igloo

 

[Michael]

 

[igloo]

for all I know i am already living in a false reality
if the illusion is complete it might as well not be an illusion

 

[jasque]

I would if it was like Wall-E

 

[Dolche]

for all I know i am already living in a false reality
if the illusion is complete it might as well not be an illusion

Even if the illusion is not physical reality? Are you saying you are willing to give up physical reality for illusion?

 

[Dolche]

I would if it was like Wall-E

If humans turned into cyborgs, which I believe we will, eventually.

 

[igloo]

Even if the illusion is not physical reality? Are you saying you are willing to give up physical reality for illusion?

how would I know the difference?
if i didn't know the difference it would be physical for me
would i choose it?
no
because I would never be able to stop know it's an illusion
however if I never knew
then it would be no different from it being reality
just like now
i might as well just be a brain in a vat

 

[Dolche]

how would I know the difference?
if i didn't know the difference it would be physical for me
would i choose it?
no
because I would never be able to stop know it's an illusion
however if I never knew
then it would be no different from it being reality
just like now
i might as well just be a brain in a vat

I agree. However, is that how humans should live?

 

[igloo]

I agree. However, is that how humans should live?

i don't think there is one should
meaning is not inherent
we create it for ourselves
so it is up to you to choose

 

[Dolche]

i don't think there is one should
meaning is not inherent
we create it for ourselves
so it is up to you to choose

If one does not want to live in physical reality, it’s his or her choice, you mean. We should not judge their decision, is that what you’re saying? No “right or wrong” moral grounds, it’s their choice, and we should respect it.

 

[igloo]

If one does not want to live in physical reality, it’s his or her choice, you mean. We should not judge their decision, is that what you’re saying? No “right or wrong” moral grounds, it’s their choice, and we should respect it.

precisely
of course we are in fact free to judge based on our own morals
but we should at least understand theirs may not be the same as ours
we are as free to judge as they are to choose

 

[Dolche]

precisely
of course we are in fact free to judge based on our own morals
but we should at least understand theirs may not be the same as ours
we are as free to judge as they are to choose

Oh, we have the same opinion about that. Well, this is the future after all, people will have to get used to certain changes.

Mankind has always advanced with such changes, a few decades ago (?) we didn’t have the Internet or a phone in our hands.

Do you think with such a lifestyle, there will be adverse effects on the human body and mind? I guess not, with perfect technology.

 

[Dolche]

And very good point about morals! @igloo

 

[Dolche]

Even if the future was like the Matrix, do you think that would be an ideal future? @igloo

 

[igloo]

Even if the future was like the Matrix, do you think that would be an ideal future? @igloo

I don't actually find a simulacrum future optimal
I find a future of instant travel across the universe optimal
in which people can choose to live in simulations as they please
but that's just my sci fi nerd showing

 

[jasque]

Oh, we have the same opinion about that. Well, this is the future after all, people will have to get used to certain changes.

Mankind has always advanced with such changes, a few decades ago (?) we didn’t have the Internet or a phone in our hands.

Do you think with such a lifestyle, there will be adverse effects on the human body and mind? I guess not, with perfect technology.

Mind reading will be possible in the future

 

[yeji]

I personally just want to tale each day as it is and cherish it

 

[Azukiiro]

So if we can make virtual reality a thing then theres an argument that we could be living in a simulation right now. Can you imagine that?



I personally like the idea of virtual reality ONLY because it has been implemented into some learning courses such as medical courses for doctors to practice their skills as surgeon within a virtual simulation. But it could also warp reality in terms of forming relationships and gaming. Nothing compares to real life.

An example of that would be "VRChat".

This is a game where you can create an avatar and enter a world of Virtual reality and start socialising with others. This could potentially replace going outside to meet people. If people can do it from the comfort of their own home, why waste time, money and effort?

Especially with things like the COVID-19 keeping everyone indoors and letting them get familiar with communicating electronically. Who's to say there wont be another disease in the future that quarantines everyone?

Ai could be helpful but nothing can replace a living human being. Machines are always prone to failure and this could be a problem if they become self aware :o

Overall, I think Virtual reality is good if implemented correctly but should not be used to replace human contact completely. There should be possibly be a law that forbids the complete move to virtual reality. Imagine a whole new society within virtual reality complete with economy and more omg that would be insane.

 

[kodoku]

very interesting topic, I've thought about this kind of thing too.. if the world, this life, and reality suck.. and I was given a chance to hide in a world filled with my own dreams, to fall into a beautiful yet false slumber.. what would I do..? even now, I'm not sure.. I don't have much hope for things changing and I don't feel like I'm living anyway, so being happy in a lie still seems better than my reality.. however, at least my pain is real, at least I can say I am trying, at least I am present in a real moment... I think choosing a fake life would make the people around me sad too.. so yeah, I don't know if I could choose a lie like that, but maybe if I felt hopeless enough, who knows..