[Remake 7/?] Do Korean variety shows tend to have bad editing? (1 Viewer)

[blueberries]

Originally posted Dec 14 2017

I still feel similarly about this, I love korean variety shows and at best they make my cheeks and stomach hurt from laughing too much. But often the direction is all over the place and clear segment and plot of the episodes is just sacrificed to get more screentime for most popular guests and jokes that they keep showing again and again. I miss the clear formula that lot of western shows have, especially with competition shows.

Does it bother you or is it easy for you to keep up with korean varities and competition shows?

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One of my favorite past time is to watch Korean varieties such as Running Man, but I have noticed sth that bothers me alot. I feel like it's pretty common for major parts of the shows to get cut cause they want to give more time for more popular guests or jokes they consider more funny. This however disturbs to flows of the shows a lot.

If you think of American (or some other western) reality shows, especially competition ones tend to have really formulatic structure in episodes. For example X-factor live shows, they perform the songs, judges judge the performance and in the end of episode two of the ones that got least votes go against each other in the singing battle and judges vote who stays. The formula is simple to follow and continues almost every episode. But if you compare that to shows like MixNine, Show me the money, Unpretty Rapstar and the Unit, I feel like I don't understand the structure of these shows most of the times, I have no idea what is happening next and why. This is especially true with MixNine, I'm just utterly confused what is happening on that show which makes it impossible to follow. Last time I was in board with the show was when they auctioned people.

There is another complaint as well other than episode formula being confusing as hell- when they cut major parts of the games. Running man and other shows that have games tend to do this, they cut parts that they think are less funny or parts that just involve less popular members. This is really annoying cause since you look forward those parts. For example Big Bang visited one show (can't remember name) where everyone did a dish to be judged. But after 4th Big Bang members dish had been judged.. the show just cut to another segment.


Shortly:

1. Korean shows episode formulas should be more clear-cut so it'd be easier to follow the show
2. They shouldn't cut out major parts of the games and activities of shows to showcase funniest jokes or more popular members/guests

 

[Jimimis]

They only acceptable thing they edit in is the blush

 

[blueberries]

They only acceptable thing they edit in is the blush

Ah you don't like all the additions and texts flying on the screen? xd

They are sometimes bit much, though I think they have bit charm too, makes it really feel like korean variety show when things get added to people's screen all the time ^^;

 

[baekk]

Sometimes, they are all over the place. The best quality is when they react to there own show, just sitting down(if that makes any sense)
Like this...

 

[blueberries]

Sometimes, they are all over the place. The best quality is when they react to there own show, just sitting down(if that makes any sense)
Like this...

I have seen that format going around a bit, but haven't watch lot of it myself. I feel like it's bit newer trend with variety shows? I'm more used to just talk shows and then game shows.

 

[baekk]

I have seen that format going around a bit, but haven't watch lot of it myself. I feel like it's bit newer trend with variety shows? I'm more used to just talk shows and then game shows.

Yeah its a really big trend and it's getting more popular

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

Originally posted Dec 14 2017

I still feel similarly about this, I love korean variety shows and at best they make my cheeks and stomach hurt from laughing too much. But often the direction is all over the place and clear segment and plot of the episodes is just sacrificed to get more screentime for most popular guests and jokes that they keep showing again and again. I miss the clear formula that lot of western shows have, especially with competition shows.

Does it bother you or is it easy for you to keep up with korean varities and competition shows?

--

One of my favorite past time is to watch Korean varieties such as Running Man, but I have noticed sth that bothers me alot. I feel like it's pretty common for major parts of the shows to get cut cause they want to give more time for more popular guests or jokes they consider more funny. This however disturbs to flows of the shows a lot.

If you think of American (or some other western) reality shows, especially competition ones tend to have really formulatic structure in episodes. For example X-factor live shows, they perform the songs, judges judge the performance and in the end of episode two of the ones that got least votes go against each other in the singing battle and judges vote who stays. The formula is simple to follow and continues almost every episode. But if you compare that to shows like MixNine, Show me the money, Unpretty Rapstar and the Unit, I feel like I don't understand the structure of these shows most of the times, I have no idea what is happening next and why. This is especially true with MixNine, I'm just utterly confused what is happening on that show which makes it impossible to follow. Last time I was in board with the show was when they auctioned people.

There is another complaint as well other than episode formula being confusing as hell- when they cut major parts of the games. Running man and other shows that have games tend to do this, they cut parts that they think are less funny or parts that just involve less popular members. This is really annoying cause since you look forward those parts. For example Big Bang visited one show (can't remember name) where everyone did a dish to be judged. But after 4th Big Bang members dish had been judged.. the show just cut to another segment.


Shortly:

1. Korean shows episode formulas should be more clear-cut so it'd be easier to follow the show
2. They shouldn't cut out major parts of the games and activities of shows to showcase funniest jokes or more popular members/guests

I love Running Man, n agree that it's unsatisfying to have them edit out parts.

But wat can you do.

I've watched episodes 1-135 n then 300sth to current, noticed earlier episodes seem to hv less or no parts edited out.

It's not ideal but I've kinda accepted it as part of Korean tv culture, they keep the time within the show limits.

Otherwise like in western shows, like survivor frex, maybe they plan out the contents to fit n it's not as entertaining cos not as spontaneous.

To me , Korea more spontaneous but edit out parts to fit in time. Western more planned out, less spontaneous, no extra bits edited out or less n less entertaining smh.

The planning n type of editing western variety shows sucks spontaneity smh n I watch less-consider kpop stars on western variety, frex BlackPink on James Corden, quite entertaining but when western stars appear, they're less spontaneous n not as entertaining smh, even doing the same bits bcos they (western stars) r unwilling to be spontaneous n be made fun of.

Contrast Mission Impossible stars on running man-worse than Jackie Chan cos Jackie was willing to do it even if he was made fun of but big stars even Simon Pegg didn't get to do anything making fun of him.

Dunno if that makes sense? I read somewhere tat western shows r now highly planned n staged (than many years b4) so that stars r willing to appear, so there's less spontaneity n to me less entertaining cos no/less chance of mistakes accidents n fun stuff.

I think Korean variety shows r more spontaneous smh n more fun for me than western variety/reality shows.

I only watch running man a lot n no current talent/reality shows so no comments on those.

It's yr choice to watch or not.

 

[blueberries]

I love Running Man, n agree that it's unsatisfying to have them edit out parts.

But wat can you do.

I've watched episodes 1-135 n then 300sth to current, noticed earlier episodes seem to hv less or no parts edited out.

It's not ideal but I've kinda accepted it as part of Korean tv culture, they keep the time within the show limits.

Otherwise like in western shows, like survivor frex, maybe they plan out the contents to fit n it's not as entertaining cos not as spontaneous.

To me , Korea more spontaneous but edit out parts to fit in time. Western more planned out, less spontaneous, no extra bits edited out or less n less entertaining smh.

The planning n type of editing western variety shows sucks spontaneity smh n I watch less-consider kpop stars on western variety, frex BlackPink on James Corden, quite entertaining but when western stars appear, they're less spontaneous n not as entertaining smh, even doing the same bits bcos they (western stars) r unwilling to be spontaneous n be made fun of.

Contrast Mission Impossible stars on running man-worse than Jackie Chan cos Jackie was willing to do it even if he was made fun of but big stars even Simon Pegg didn't get to do anything making fun of him.

Dunno if that makes sense? I read somewhere tat western shows r now highly planned n staged (than many years b4) so that stars r willing to appear, so there's less spontaneity n to me less entertaining cos no/less chance of mistakes accidents n fun stuff.

I think Korean variety shows r more spontaneous smh n more fun for me than western variety/reality shows.

I only watch running man a lot n no current talent/reality shows so no comments on those.

It's yr choice to watch or not.

Well that does make sense to me and I didn't consider that before. I know that with Running Man although it's also scripted they do things spontaneously too and often have to change plans cause of weather and such. Lot of jokes etc. seem to be unscripted too which is nice.

Though I guess I would just love balance with some shows. Like there has been some competition based (not Running Man which is more of variety show still, but the likes of Show me the money etc.) and they cut things so much that I don't get what's going on after a while . With those I sometimes really miss that regular 1-2 competitions in the ep + elimination at the end format that would repeat on eps.

And also I would still love if they stopped favoriting some of the cast and quest so much, poor Jihyo's and her guest's screentime gets almost always cut down a bit in Running Man.

 

[blueberries]

Yeah its a really big trend and it's getting more popular

I think I have seen one like that which is also competition and travelling show.. lot of things in one show xd

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

Well that does make sense to me and I didn't consider that before. I know that with Running Man although it's also scripted they do things spontaneously too and often have to change plans cause of weather and such. Lot of jokes etc. seem to be unscripted too which is nice.

Though I guess I would just love balance with some shows. Like there has been some competition based (not Running Man which is more of variety show still, but the likes of Show me the money etc.) and they cut things so much that I don't get what's going on after a while . With those I sometimes really miss that regular 1-2 competitions in the ep + elimination at the end format that would repeat on eps.

And also I would still love if they stopped favoriting some of the cast and quest so much, poor Jihyo's and her guest's screentime gets almost always cut down a bit in Running Man.

Mostly agree(edited out my too long response.) she trying hard recently n surprised me w/her improvements.
I Think as she's an actress not comedian harder for her (w/out a script/or script goes to the comedian) in parts of the show where wit, mostly n quick funny responses are called for so she gets edited out a lot, maybe not last few weeks, tho.

 

[blueberries]

Mostly agree(edited out my too long response.) she trying hard recently n surprised me w/her improvements.
I Think as she's an actress not comedian harder for her (w/out a script/or script goes to the comedian) in parts of the show where wit, mostly n quick funny responses are called for so she gets edited out a lot, maybe not last few weeks, tho.

Yea I guess it's bit of different tastes between me and your regular korean editor though too. Like often I would much rather watch Jongkook and Jihyo seriously competiting and acing everything than neverending sheningans of betrayal club.

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

Yea I guess it's bit of different tastes between me and your regular korean editor though too. Like often I would much rather watch Jongkook and Jihyo seriously competiting and acing everything than neverending sheningans of betrayal club.

Where r u? I'm in S.E.A. Not for nothing is Kwang Soo called Prince of Asia, tho I think it's faded from his peak (I'm not big fan of his betrayals, I prefer chemistry between Jaesuk n Jong Kook, n some unpredictability to the cast, smh.)

I kinda have a equal octagonal shaped love for the cast, nobody my favorite but not too far apart from each other, whole cast I like together.

I just take the episodes as is, if I don't like one as much, just wait n maybe next one better. Still hv abt 200 in middle I hvnt watched yet. (Same w/edited out parts, I'll just watch next one n hope it's better.)

frex, i started watching current episodes last year n cable channel here now repeating but I can't remember if or what I watched then so end up re-watching n being surprised w/results /ending parts which is good for me cos I hate predictability in these shows.

(The early episodes I think r best for least editing out n watching Jk/Jh seriously competing.)

I read koreas fave show isn't rm so the producers probably try to hv sth for everyone instead of jk/jh show which u might like but 99% of Korea n maybe even Asia won't.

Did u watch jihyo n jongkook on reality show pajama friends where he was a guest n she n cast asked him questions, that was great.)

 

[blueberries]

Where r u? I'm in S.E.A. Not for nothing is Kwang Soo called Prince of Asia, tho I think it's faded from his peak (I'm not big fan of his betrayals, I prefer chemistry between Jaesuk n Jong Kook, n some unpredictability to the cast, smh.)

I kinda have a equal octagonal shaped love for the cast, nobody my favorite but not too far apart from each other, whole cast I like together.

I just take the episodes as is, if I don't like one as much, just wait n maybe next one better. Still hv abt 200 in middle I hvnt watched yet. (Same w/edited out parts, I'll just watch next one n hope it's better.)

frex, i started watching current episodes last year n cable channel here now repeating but I can't remember if or what I watched then so end up re-watching n being surprised w/results /ending parts which is good for me cos I hate predictability in these shows.

(The early episodes I think r best for least editing out n watching Jk/Jh seriously competing.)

I read koreas fave show isn't rm so the producers probably try to hv sth for everyone instead of jk/jh show which u might like but 99% of Korea n maybe even Asia won't.

Did u watch jihyo n jongkook on reality show pajama friends where he was a guest n she n cast asked him questions, that was great.)

North Europe, Finland :d

Jaesuk and Jongkook is fun, poor Jaesuk most of the time though. I still remember that one ep with muddle fight, Jaesuk got bullied so hard I couldn't help but feel bad- while laughing my ass off.

I'm not sure where exactly I am, I haven't watched the newest eps I usually watch those just when idols and groups I'm into visit. But I think I have watched around 300 from the start xd

I haven't watched the pajama friends one, sounds interesting :d

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

North Europe, Finland :d

Jaesuk and Jongkook is fun, poor Jaesuk most of the time though. I still remember that one ep with muddle fight, Jaesuk got bullied so hard I couldn't help but feel bad- while laughing my ass off.

I'm not sure where exactly I am, I haven't watched the newest eps I usually watch those just when idols and groups I'm into visit. But I think I have watched around 300 from the start xd

I haven't watched the pajama friends one, sounds interesting :d

Jaesuk n jong kook physical battle is so uneven that it's OOP, it's hilarious. Even tho I'm not sure which one ur talking abt, I get the gist. Rn I'm not sure whether they plan it or not but I find it so fun that I don't mind it either way(I believe -dint used to think so when I started watching, the producers r that good- that There's planning involved in that kind of thing but not sure wat kind n how much. Still seemed spontaneous n fun tho, as compared to western shows.)

If the guest on pajama show interest u, u shd totally watch it. I only really watched when Jong kook was guest.

 

[blueberries]

Jaesuk n jong kook physical battle is so uneven that it's OOP, it's hilarious. Even tho I'm not sure which one ur talking abt, I get the gist. Rn I'm not sure whether they plan it or not but I find it so fun that I don't mind it either way(I believe -dint used to think so when I started watching, the producers r that good- that There's planning involved in that kind of thing but not sure wat kind n how much. Still seemed spontaneous n fun tho, as compared to western shows.)

If the guest on pajama show interest u, u shd totally watch it. I only really watched when Jong kook was guest.

It was quite on the middle so maybe u havent watched it yet. But yep poor Jaesuk doesnt have a chance on physical battle. I quite like how he gets back with water gun eps though xd