Sensitive So Chaeyoung Is Wearing A Nazi Shirt (1 Viewer)

[MK3AM]

i- yikes...
A stylist did this?

 

[Chaeee]

Yikes😬

 

[centen]

There's always a huge disconnect when it comes to these controversies in that i-fans will gloss over something Koreans find controversial and then k-fans will do the exact same when it comes to something i-fans find controversial because it's usually a case of being taught about one side or the other unless you want to go deeper into history yourself.

From what I've seen of Twice I don't think Chaeyoung holds incredibly far right beliefs that both Hitler and Trump are on her bingo card so I do think it's just ignorance however both JYP and Chaeyoung should still apologise which I did see Chaeyoung post an apology on her Instagram

It kind of reminds me of this xkcd comic:

Everyone assumes that what they know is just "common sense" and "everyone knows that, duh" but we're all informed by our culture, our upbringing, our access to education, etc. There's a person I'm friends with now who is constantly surprised by media that he didn't grow up with, even though we're the same age, because his deeply religious parents had a list of "approved" content, and anything outside of that list is brand new information to him. He'd never heard of the artist TLC, has no familiarity with the movie Titanic that he missed a reference to Jack Dawson that I made, doesn't know what "PIVOT" is referencing, etc. So when I see her shirt, I went "yeah, that's Sid Vicious for you," but I could see how people who have no idea who the Sex Pistols are completely dismissed all the other imagery and honed in on the one thing they did recognize. And I honestly have no idea how well known the batshit insanity that is QAnon is known outside of the United States; even though I know of the group, I didn't recognize that other top she's been criticized for as being one of theirs, so it's weird to me to automatically assume she's a deeply hateful person expressing this through clothing that, idk, I live in the culture that sprung that hate group and didn't recognize the shirt, so why would she automatically know it?

So I've seen some controversy where people are like she's "obviously" pretending not to know, but idk, I believe that she genuinely didn't know or draw the connection.

It's a bad move for JYPE clearly, but at the same time, I can only imagine how difficult it is to proactively identify and try to not offend any other culture. (I mean... before I was into kpop, I don't think I could have even identified the rising sun imagery that k-fans LOATHE, much less understand why it's something more than just a pretty sun.) The only thing she can do is learn and do better next time.

 

[Abeamus]

It kind of reminds me of this xkcd comic:

Everyone assumes that what they know is just "common sense" and "everyone knows that, duh" but we're all informed by our culture, our upbringing, our access to education, etc. There's a person I'm friends with now who is constantly surprised by media that he didn't grow up with, even though we're the same age, because his deeply religious parents had a list of "approved" content, and anything outside of that list is brand new information to him. He'd never heard of the artist TLC, has no familiarity with the movie Titanic that he missed a reference to Jack Dawson that I made, doesn't know what "PIVOT" is referencing, etc. So when I see her shirt, I went "yeah, that's Sid Vicious for you," but I could see how people who have no idea who the Sex Pistols are completely dismissed all the other imagery and honed in on the one thing they did recognize. And I honestly have no idea how well known the batshit insanity that is QAnon is known outside of the United States; even though I know of the group, I didn't recognize that other top she's been criticized for as being one of theirs, so it's weird to me to automatically assume she's a deeply hateful person expressing this through clothing that, idk, I live in the culture that sprung that hate group and didn't recognize the shirt, so why would she automatically know it?

So I've seen some controversy where people are like she's "obviously" pretending not to know, but idk, I believe that she genuinely didn't know or draw the connection.

It's a bad move for JYPE clearly, but at the same time, I can only imagine how difficult it is to proactively identify and try to not offend any other culture. (I mean... before I was into kpop, I don't think I could have even identified the rising sun imagery that k-fans LOATHE, much less understand why it's something more than just a pretty sun.) The only thing she can do is learn and do better next time.

The QAnon shirt it's hard to imagine she had many ways of knowing since you either have to be in the US and it'd come up in your news or be looking at a news source that covers US news which means you are likely online a lot and I doubt she is exactly scrolling through Twitter for that to come up while being a member of Twice. That is something where if are online a lot and look at a source covering it though you'll think it'll be something that everyone has seen and then someone who just isn't online that much could just miss because they stick to what they want to keep up with as that's all they have time for.

I think people tend to assume the worst because they don't wanna have that moment like "I've been supporting someone who's _____" and feel sick which no one wants that moment but then you could just be cancelling people who would want to learn and grow like BTS has had some controversies like this themselves and now they are kind of the poster child for speaking out against inequality for Kpop.

I had seen the Rising Sun flag once before but until I got into Kpop I had no idea just how much of a no no that was for Korea until I saw the Tiffany controversy around it and that is the other part of it where I saw a news blog where someone writes their opinion on Kpop news and they went hard on the Sowon controversy saying she just must support this however when they had written about Tiffanys controversy they pretty much thought of it as a non issue.