This is not Liz (1 Viewer)

[fdonce]

@Dive

 

[kimsguardian]

it's someone who really looks like liz & her boyfriend

 

[Selfmate]

These are not the droids Liz you are looking for

 

[TrinityJade]

Not-Liz can I have an autograph

 

[Moguri]

aww the fan seemed so friendly, why did the manager try to lie

it was a really cute interaction either way, Liz can never keep a straight face

 

[fdonce]

aww the fan seemed so friendly, why did the manager try to lie

it was a really cute interaction either way, Liz can never keep a straight face

They have to protect her identity in public. Indoor shes a house cat, outside shes a stray cat

 

[kinnie]

They did that fan dirty. I mean, Liz is an adult and can speak for herself. It's not like a hoard of people approached her....

 

[fdonce]

They did that fan dirty. I mean, Liz is an adult and can speak for herself. It's not like a hoard of people approached her....

Maybe the manager is joking

 

[kinnie]

Maybe the manager is joking

Doubtful.
He just wants Liz for himself!

 

[fdonce]

Doubtful.
He just wants Liz for himself!

Can't blame him, id prob do the same

 

[kinnie]

Can't blame him, id prob do the same

HOW DARE YOU!
ARF!

 

[Selfmate]

They did that fan dirty. I mean, Liz is an adult and can speak for herself. It's not like a hoard of people approached her....

I thought the manager was just trying to protect her...

 

[kinnie]

I thought the manager was just trying to protect her...

Protecting her from what exactly? A polite fan? Interesting.

 

[Selfmate]

Protecting her from what exactly? A polite fan? Interesting.

protecting as in not wanting the fan to get close or to bother Liz
obviously this is not on the fan since the fan was nothing but polite but rather Liz was out with a bodyguard and thus the manager has a general duty to protect their idols and not allow randoms to bother them (I'm not saying the fan did or not did bother them)

it is the neverending question of when a celebrity is out in public - does one have the right to go up to them when they are doing "non-celebrity things"

 

[kinnie]

protecting as in not wanting the fan to get close or to bother Liz
obviously this is not on the fan since the fan was nothing but polite but rather Liz was out with a bodyguard and thus the manager has a general duty to protect their idols and not allow randoms to bother them (I'm not saying the fan did or not did bother them)

it is the neverending question of when a celebrity is out in public - does one have the right to go up to them when they are doing "non-celebrity things"

I think it honestly depends on the circumstance. In this case, it was just that one fan(I think) and it was at night. She didn't scream or become overly obnoxious which would obviously draw in bystanders. What I don't understand is why they would lie to the fan, which is really disheartening. If Liz's manager was going to butt in he could have simply said, "Hello, thank you for being a fan. Liz is currently not working at the moment." or Liz herself could've addressed her fan like a professional instead of hiding behind her manager. Even when you're doing "non-celebrity things", at the end of the day you are a celebrity. I'm not saying idols cannot have boundaries or privacy. I just believe this situation could've been handled more professionally and fairly towards the fan.

 

[Selfmate]

I think it honestly depends on the circumstance. In this case, it was just that one fan(I think) and it was at night. She didn't scream or become overly obnoxious which would obviously draw in bystanders. What I don't understand is why they would lie to the fan, which is really disheartening. If Liz's manager was going to butt in he could have simply said, "Hello, thank you for being a fan. Liz is currently not working at the moment." or Liz herself could've addressed her fan like a professional instead of hiding behind her manager. Even when you're doing "non-celebrity things", at the end of the day you are a celebrity. I'm not saying idols cannot have boundaries or privacy. I just believe this situation could've been handled more professionally and fairly towards the fan.

that's very reasonable - nothing wrong with that
do you also find it reasonable that as a manager out with a celebrity may not want any and all people coming up to them? obviously in THIS case the fan was respectful and polite however that's not necessarily the case for every fan and thus is it acceptable for the manager in this situation to deny Liz to "ward off" potential fans - do you find such behaviour completely unacceptable?

we only know of this situation because it was captured on camera. How many random interactions do we not see because they weren't captured on camera? what if Liz was "bothered" at multiple occasions prior to this incident? what if there were incidents with other member(s) being "bothered" at different situations/different countries? What if it was company policy to "shoo off" random fans whilst the member(s) are out and about and not shooting? what if the members themselves said look I just don't want to be bothered today? is that not acceptable?

now is the issue with specifically how the manager shooed off the fan or the fact that he shooed them off in the first place?

 

[kinnie]

that's very reasonable - nothing wrong with that
do you also find it reasonable that as a manager out with a celebrity may not want any and all people coming up to them? obviously in THIS case the fan was respectful and polite however that's not necessarily the case for every fan and thus is it acceptable for the manager in this situation to deny Liz to "ward off" potential fans - do you find such behaviour completely unacceptable?

we only know of this situation because it was captured on camera. How many random interactions do we not see because they weren't captured on camera? what if Liz was "bothered" at multiple occasions prior to this incident? what if there were incidents with other member(s) being "bothered" at different situations/different countries? What if it was company policy to "shoo off" random fans whilst the member(s) are out and about and not shooting? what if the members themselves said look I just don't want to be bothered today? is that not acceptable?

now is the issue with specifically how the manager shooed off the fan or the fact that he shooed them off in the first place?

I've stated my opinion and I'm going to leave it at that. Thank you.