i hate milk (1 Viewer)

[Abeamus]

I never have milk on its own, just with other things

 

[dark_tranquility]

I drink my milk. I need one to drink and one for ceral.

 

[Boyo]

I have problems with milk from the stores, but not with "domestic" milk aka the one from farmers.
I guess that's how artificial the milk we buy in stores are; full of unnecessary things.

 

[Michael]

I don't drink milk anymore.

 

[seoriverse]

milk in a bag is kinda annoying ngl the cissors are always lost when i need to open the bag

 

[Day]

Me too

 

[dark_tranquility]

Is it true that milk strengthens the bones or not?

 

[Villains]

Is it true that milk strengthens the bones or not?

i actually have no idea. i mean my mom tells me that

 

[dark_tranquility]

i actually have no idea. i mean my mom tells me that

So does my dad.

 

[Soogi]

me too, im lactose intolerant but i also cant stand the taste or smell or mouth feel. i always eat my cereal soggy with just a tiny bit of milk so the cereal overpowers the milk, and milkshakes have to be very sweetened and flavored before i'll even touch it

 

[Wingfrost]

Unless it’s in cereal it’s disgusting

 

[Michael]

Is it true that milk strengthens the bones or not?

No. This is likely a myth begun by milk industry propaganda. Look at this study:

Milk consumption during teenage years and risk of hip fractures in older adults - PubMed

Greater milk consumption during teenage years was not associated with a lower risk of hip fracture in older adults. The positive association observed in men was partially mediated through attained height.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So it didn't find an association between milk consumption early in life and bone fractures later. No association, no causality. So milk is not beneficial in that regard.

EDIT: I may need to retract this, as this only applies to early consumption and later bone strength. It cannot inform on current consumption related to current bone strength.

 

[Michael]

No. This is likely a myth begun by milk industry propaganda. Look at this study:

Milk consumption during teenage years and risk of hip fractures in older adults - PubMed

Greater milk consumption during teenage years was not associated with a lower risk of hip fracture in older adults. The positive association observed in men was partially mediated through attained height.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So it didn't find an association between milk consumption early in life and bone fractures later. No association, no causality. So milk is not beneficial in that regard.

EDIT: I may need to retract this, as this only applies to early consumption and later bone strength. It cannot inform on current consumption related to current bone strength.

I found something that may (keyword here may) mean milk is protective. It's a "randomized controlled trial" which makes it a little better than the study above. Here it is:

Effect of dietary sources of calcium and protein on hip fractures and falls in older adults in residential care: cluster randomised controlled trial - PMC

To assess the antifracture efficacy and safety of a nutritional intervention in institutionalised older adults replete in vitamin D but with mean intakes of 600 mg/day calcium and <1 g/kg body weight protein/day. Two year cluster randomised ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There are a few things that make me doubt it is reliable. No study performed in humans actually is. The fracture reduction rate was 33% only and there are a lot of confounders. It is however much better than the one I link above. So I cannot say one thing or the other. I just don't know.

 

[cocomelon]

that's it. that's the thread

Same

yall will hate me but i finish my milk in seconds

 

[Villains]

yall will hate me but i finish my milk in seconds

 

[tai]

yall will hate me but i finish my milk in seconds

me with vanilla milk

 

[Villains]

me with vanilla milk

vanilla milk is so good

 

[Michael]

I found something that may (keyword here may) mean milk is protective. It's a "randomized controlled trial" which makes it a little better than the study above. Here it is:

Effect of dietary sources of calcium and protein on hip fractures and falls in older adults in residential care: cluster randomised controlled trial - PMC

To assess the antifracture efficacy and safety of a nutritional intervention in institutionalised older adults replete in vitamin D but with mean intakes of 600 mg/day calcium and <1 g/kg body weight protein/day. Two year cluster randomised ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There are a few things that make me doubt it is reliable. No study performed in humans actually is. The fracture reduction rate was 33% only and there are a lot of confounders. It is however much better than the one I link above. So I cannot say one thing or the other. I just don't know.

I hate to have to keep looking into this further; but I have. Doing some numbers, an interesting thing emerges.
There were a total of 7195 permanent residents, the study lasted for 2 years. That results on 14390 person-years of follow up.

Now total fractures were 121 vs 203, which means a decrement of 82 fractures. Now this is looking funny!
That's because it results on a reduction of 82 / 14390 = 0.0056984016678249 fractures per person per year. if we are to extend this for a full 100 years lifespan, this results on 5.6984016678249 x 10^-5; a number sooooooooo tiny, it's almost zero. So we can say the results have no practical utility whatsoever, as it can very easily be rounded to zero.

I have to go back to my original opinion that milk consumption has no bearing on bone strength.