Sensitive Heechul under fire for misogynistic comments (1 Viewer)

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The thread is missing a lot of context, and making quite a lot of generalizations about what was said during the live stream.

The feminist woman’s group, seems more a personal issue to him, because that particular group was sued by him and that group that doesn’t has a clean record either. since they said horrible things about suili and goo hara.

Cat feeders/ it seems like had a problem with how the group was criticizing him for rescuing animals.

Kangin stuff - if you read the allkpop article, he didn’t defend him and he admitted how Kangin fucked up and how mad he was for doing those things.

as for the other things mentioned, we don’t have any clarifications for those stuff since he was drunk. He fucked up in that regard, and should have thought twice about this. And no I don’t want to come across as a defender, I just don’t want generalize someone whole character based on one livestream.
 

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The thread is missing a lot of context, and making quite a lot of generalizations about what was said during the live stream.

The feminist woman’s group, seems more a personal issue to him, because that particular group was sued by him and that group that doesn’t has a clean record either. since they said horrible things about suili and goo hara.

Cat feeders/ it seems like had a problem with how the group was criticizing him for rescuing animals.

Kangin stuff - if you read the allkpop article, he didn’t defend him and he admitted how Kangin fucked up and how mad he was for doing those things.

as for the other things mentioned, we don’t have any clarifications for those stuff since he was drunk. He fucked up in that regard, and should have thought twice about this. And no I don’t want to come across as a defender, I just don’t want generalize someone whole character based on one livestream.
I’m really glad you cleared a lot of this up. I didn’t know the group said bad things about Sulli. Wasn’t she also a feminist? So why would they dislike her? I don’t know, but that seems fishy to me.
 

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I'm honestly not sure what to think since I don't know the context to some of these things... either way, it would have been best to stay quiet given the backlash...
 
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Anyways I think what he said might have been wrong and might have been fine. The assumption here is that the feminists are all good people and anyone who speaks against them is only doing to because they’re mysoginists. But think about it, feminists are a really varied group of people. Some of them are crazy, radical, exclusionary against trans people, ect. If I wanted to I could make the claim that anyone who doesn’t agree with JK Rowling is anti feminist, because in a way they are. I’m not saying that the organization Heechul spoke out against is necessarily this brand of feminism, but I’m just pointing out that being a feminist doesn’t automatically mean good and being against certain feminists doesn’t automatically mean you’re a bad person. Otherwise I bet most people in this thread would possibly be guilty of the same thing as Heechul is. Unless you know the organization in question can you really make that judgement?
True and fair.
 
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I’m really glad you cleared a lot of this up. I didn’t know the group said bad things about Sulli. Wasn’t she also a feminist? So why would they dislike her? I don’t know, but that seems fishy to me.
this "feminist" group apparently (from what I hear) have very fixed notions of what women are supposed to be like. they're openly transphobic and homophobic, as they don't think lesbian women and trans women are "real women". sulli also must not have fit their definitions of a "woman" for whatever reason, so they hated her
 

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this "feminist" group apparently (from what I hear) have very fixed notions of what women are supposed to be like. they're openly transphobic and homophobic, as they don't think lesbian women and trans women are "real women". sulli also must not have fit their definitions of a "woman" for whatever reason, so they hated her
I did not know that, and I'm glad you pointed that out. I also read the article posted for earlier about the drama between him and the "feminist" group and I think he was in the right to talk about Sulli since they were so close.
 
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