Rumor HYBE is gonna kill SM (1 Viewer)

[fairyOfshampOO]

but every company puts limits on limits no? it's not limited to kpop
sure there's a stain but how does that stain affect hybe? sure gfriend fans might be upset and it's understandable I would be be too but it's a business decision no?

whether gfriend would have returned a sufficient profit is not up to you or me - it's source and ultimately hybe's decision and that's my point - as fans of kpop groups not merely gfriend or nuest or whatever we have to understand why a company does what it does even if we disagree with the decision to do it...

again I'm sorry for nuest fans but I'm sure hybe had it's reasons and those reasons probably meant nuest wasn't earning a sufficient return...

didn't nu'est got mistreat by pledis anyways before the pledis was a HYBE label ????.
Like I heard that pledis just left nu'est in japan for like entire year ????.

 

[Selfmate]

didn't nu'est got mistreat by pledis anyways before the pledis was a HYBE label ????.
Like I heard that pledis just left nu'est in japan for like entire year ????.

I'm not familiar with them maybe???

 

[fairyOfshampOO]

I'm not familiar with them maybe???

apparently so

 

[Selfmate]

apparently so

I'll take your word for it my friend
maybe the disbandment was mutual??? ie. maybe nuest wanted out of pledis???

 

[fairyOfshampOO]

I'll take your word for it my friend
maybe the disbandment was mutual??? ie. maybe nuest wanted out of pledis???

I mean like Nu'est was meant to disband multiple times . . . so idk

 

[Selfmate]

I mean like Nu'est was meant to disband multiple times . . . so idk

really? huh the more you know

 

[fairyOfshampOO]

really? huh the more you know

yeah and that's maybe one of the reason 4 of them joined produce in 2017.

 

[VillageIdiot]

I think you guys are being overdramatic, even as a Buddy.
Granted this isn't the OG thread but Hybe has done plenty of free concerts and while they've never done a project to the extent of station, their artists have put of mixtapes and solo songs without it being a debut before. LSF Yunjin just got hers.
Look at Ador, Hybe is perfectly capable of maintaining autonomy

Idk since I though Source has debt lmao

That debt was for Le SSerafilm's debut expenses. GFriend was profitable

 

[fairyOfshampOO]

I think you guys are being overdramatic, even as a Buddy.
Granted this isn't the OG thread but Hybe has done plenty of free concerts and while they've never done a project to the extent of station, their artists have put of mixtapes and solo songs without it being a debut before. LSF Yunjin just got hers.
Look at Ador, Hybe is perfectly capable of maintaining autonomy

That debt was for Le SSerafilm's debut expenses. GFriend was profitable

ehh I was thinking that HYBE was expect more sales with Gfriend because they did have 3 KOREAN albums in during their one year run in HYBE so . . .
And if you know HYBE this kinda run is SUPER UNCOMMON in HYBE so . . . I think HYBE was expecting more from them . . . so

 

[fairyOfshampOO]

ehh I was thinking that HYBE was expect more sales with Gfriend because they did have 3 KOREAN albums in during their one year run in HYBE so . . .
And if you know HYBE this kinda run is SUPER UNCOMMON in HYBE so . . . I think HYBE was expecting more from them . . . so

and I'm pretty sure like these three album were like two EPs and one Full Length as well so no single albums or even repackage
(and I don't count japanese release because who the hell cares about japanese releases lol ).

 

[Selfmate]

ehh I was thinking that HYBE was expect more sales with Gfriend because they did have 3 KOREAN albums in during their one year run in HYBE so . . .
And if you know HYBE this kinda run is SUPER UNCOMMON in HYBE so . . . I think HYBE was expecting more from them . . . so

maybe hybe took over source specifically for the purposes of acquiring the trainees and knew in advance they would disband gfriend when their contract ran out and as a last hoorah kinda thing gave gfriend the 3 albums???

 

[VillageIdiot]

ehh I was thinking that HYBE was expect more sales with Gfriend because they did have 3 KOREAN albums in during their one year run in HYBE so . . .
And if you know HYBE this kinda run is SUPER UNCOMMON in HYBE so . . . I think HYBE was expecting more from them . . . so

Most Hybe acts I've seen have released 2-3 albums a year, outside of BTS once they got too old for it? Doesn't look that uncommon.

Likewise, I'd love to understand Hybe's logic in expecting Gfriends sales to magically shoot up 6 years into their career under them when they never did anything significant to promote them. Gfriends sales were good for the time they were in and the only meaningful thing Hybe brought to GFriend was a fancy mv and beef with several networks...

 

[fairyOfshampOO]

Most Hybe acts I've seen have released 2-3 albums a year, outside of BTS once they got too old for it? Doesn't look that uncommon.

Likewise, I'd love to understand Hybe's logic in expecting Gfriends sales to magically shoot up 6 years into their career under them when they never did anything significant to promote them. Gfriends sales were good for the time they were in and the only meaningful thing Hybe brought to GFriend was a fancy mv and beef with several networks...

I mean I never saw an HYBE artist release more than two albums . . . well korean album a year.

 

[VillageIdiot]

maybe hybe took over source specifically for the purposes of acquiring the trainees and knew in advance they would disband gfriend when their contract ran out and as a last hoorah kinda thing gave gfriend the 3 albums???

Would have been nice if they'd informed the members upfront about that instead of just dragging them along at the end and refusing to renew any of them. The way SinB talked about how she fell into a depression and didn't even really get to appreciate their last comebacks because she didn't know they'd be the last broke my heart

 

[VillageIdiot]

I mean I never saw an HYBE artist release more than two albums . . . well korean album a year.

Yeah but going from 2 eps a year to a 3rd (walpurgis had old tracks that pushed it to studio status) isn't exactly a huge push, and it is something GFriend has done before

 

[fairyOfshampOO]

Yeah but going from 2 eps a year to a 3rd (walpurgis had old tracks that pushed it to studio status) isn't exactly a huge push, and it is something GFriend has done before

Okay I guess so.

 

[Selfmate]

Would have been nice if they'd informed the members upfront about that instead of just dragging them along at the end and refusing to renew any of them. The way SinB talked about how she fell into a depression and didn't even really get to appreciate their last comebacks because she didn't know they'd be the last broke my heart

companies look out for their own best interests and certainly not in the best interests of the group/fans (unless it also benefits them)

 

[VillageIdiot]

companies look out for their own best interests and certainly not in the best interests of the group/fans (unless it also benefits them)

Transparency doesn't hurt profits js

 

[Abeamus]

but every company puts limits on limits no? it's not limited to kpop
sure there's a stain but how does that stain affect hybe? sure gfriend fans might be upset and it's understandable I would be be too but it's a business decision no?

whether gfriend would have returned a sufficient profit is not up to you or me - it's source and ultimately hybe's decision and that's my point - as fans of kpop groups not merely gfriend or nuest or whatever we have to understand why a company does what it does even if we disagree with the decision to do it...

again I'm sorry for nuest fans but I'm sure hybe had it's reasons and those reasons probably meant nuest wasn't earning a sufficient return...

Sorry but I don't understand illogical reasoning and I'm not about to just trust a company when business is all about stepping on people.

I've outlined reasons why Gfriends disbandment was a bad idea and gave alternatives that provide a better long term gain so me being able to do that proves it was a bad business decision that could've easily been handled differently regardless of Hybes own thought process.

If Hybe was just overconfident in purchasing Source Music expecting Gfriends sales to go up just because they were under Hybe then that's also a terrible business decision that's unrealistic as that'd require changing Gfriend in order to get new people interested in them but as an old group that wasn't going to just happen overnight.

So either way Hybe made a bad business decision as the only reason to invest into Gfriend was the brand which they didn't apply for until they knew they were going to disband the group.

 

[Selfmate]

Sorry but I don't understand illogical reasoning and I'm not about to just trust a company when business is all about stepping on people.

I've outlined reasons why Gfriends disbandment was a bad idea and gave alternatives that provide a better long term gain so me being able to do that proves it was a bad business decision that could've easily been handled differently regardless of Hybes own thought process.

If Hybe was just overconfident in purchasing Source Music expecting Gfriends sales to go up just because they were under Hybe then that's also a terrible business decision that's unrealistic as that'd require changing Gfriend in order to get new people interested in them but as an old group that wasn't going to just happen overnight.

So either way Hybe made a bad business decision as the only reason to invest into Gfriend was the brand which they didn't apply for until they knew they were going to disband the group.

I'm not saying trust the company - I'm literally saying don't but at least understand why it's doing what it's doing...
besides there's nothing that you nor I nor anyone here can do anything about it - it is what it is...

that's not for me to judge since I don't know how gfriend would have panned out if they did not disband - neither can you - what I do know is that people in hybe considered the issue and made a judgment based on that which resulted in disbanding - you cannot prove it's a bad decision since no one knows what would have happened if gfriend didn't disband - that's total speculation - maybe they could have done really well - maybe not we will never know

maybe hybe bought source not because of gfriend but because of the other trainees in source? ie those that went on to form LSFM? again I dunno I merely speculating

and that's my point we are both speculating...and unless you are more knowledgeable have one of the biggest kpop companies and have additional information that hybe doesn't - the only people that know are those within hybe who made the decision and all other things being equal hybe would know more about it than you and I...