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I'm personally not boycotting but im gonna try reducing my streams, im only not boycotting cause i wanna keep recording each release in my hot air balloon series, so except for new releases im just not gonna listen to any big4 song

That being said im pretty surprised nobody is going after starship knowing their brand deal with pepsi
 
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I'm personally not boycotting but im gonna try reducing my streams, im only not boycotting cause i wanna keep recording each release in my hot air balloon series, so except for new releases im just not gonna listen to any big4 song

That being said im pretty surprised nobody is going after starship knowing their brand deal with pepsi
I say whatever we can do is good.

Some ppl have been saying to boycott most companies, cause many have these deals. Personally i didn't know about it. :side_eye:
 
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Well the only thing I do is music but I also listen to many eng songs as well :susPepe:
 
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Some ppl have been saying to boycott most companies, cause many have these deals. Personally i didn't know about it. :side_eye:
From what I know Starship and Pepsi have a close relationship, so like I do turn eyes. But it's as you said: Most companies probably have a brand deal with pro-Isarel companies so it's not like we should pick and choose. Personally, I'm only gonna reduce streams if there's some sort of organised push behind it so if people say to boycott Starship I will.
 
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From what I know Starship and Pepsi have a close relationship, so like I do turn eyes. But it's as you said: Most companies probably have a brand deal with pro-Isarel companies so it's not like we should pick and choose. Personally, I'm only gonna reduce streams if there's some sort of organised push behind it so if people say to boycott Starship I will.
Well as u choose :) i'm gonna try to do my best too
 
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no thanks. i think idols have the right to speak up on political issues if they want to, but what people are doing is just fucked up. you saw what happened to somi? poor girl just wanted some coffee and got bullied to hell and back just cuz she likes starbucks - not exactly an uncommon thing.
besides, yall know most of the donations are going to hamas and not the palestinian people, right?
 
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Seems really weird to me.

Firstly, the BDS National Committee obviously hasn't called for a boycott of any k-pop company. Nor have they, in the following page, made any note of a grassroots effort to boycott any k-pop company:

And so, at the very least, this strike against the big 4 doesn't appear to be coming from Palestine itself. Which, okay, fine, that could still be legit. So then, why the Big 4? Are they specifically involved with the listed companies (and really, it should be McDonalds that we should centre on here, as the Starbucks issue appears to be US-specific I think)? In what way?
There's nothing there, except, and I quote from the website listed on the graphic:

"As we know companies like McDonalds, Starbucks, Pizza Hut, Papa Johns and others are known to be zionist brands and the artists we listen to knowingly or unknowingly consume those brands. Theres a chance that most of them don't even know about the boycott"
(source: https://moa-for-palestine.carrd.co/#page6 )

Do we know that artists that we listen to do consume those brands? I can honestly say I don't know. I don't think it would merit any action even if they did, because the entire point of the BDS movement is that it is laser-targeted at direct perpetrators, not third-party consumers. But that's just my opinion! There could still be good things to come of this, so lets take a look at the list of demands:

(source: https://twitter.com/tyunphd , account linked from: https://moa-for-palestine.carrd.co/#page6 )

So, the first four are demanding that they stop doing things that we haven't established that they have done at all. Okay, weird. But then the next four are demanding active action. And that's interesting! I don't think it will work at all, and I don't think many companies, in general, have come out as active players like that. But it actually is something of substance, I guess.

For me, I think it's really misguided. But coming from a good place. I think it's valid to want to do something, but I would recommend that everyone who actually does want engage meaningfully to join local protests and write your representative. Especially if you're from the USA or UK.
 

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besides, yall know most of the donations are going to hamas and not the palestinian people, right?
this is a wild and highly inappropriate statement to make without linking sources to back up your claim.
 
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no thanks. i think idols have the right to speak up on political issues if they want to, but what people are doing is just fucked up. you saw what happened to somi? poor girl just wanted some coffee and got bullied to hell and back just cuz she likes starbucks - not exactly an uncommon thing.
besides, yall know most of the donations are going to hamas and not the palestinian people, right?
Somi knows darn well what she was doing, it was literally in the news that Starbucks lost billions then suddenly she's got a new cup? Hold her accountable
 

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I haven't used spotify in days! I should able to do this well
 

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this is a wild and highly inappropriate statement to make without linking sources to back up your claim.
my bad. i don't usually read news in english, but here are a couple of articles i could find with a quick google search:
 
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i'm scared for the k-pop community...
at least i can watch k-pop funny moments but it's not the same.
i guess i'm not buying albums now

(i am not trying to be controversial, i understand what's happening and it's sad)
 
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i'm scared for the k-pop community...
at least i can watch k-pop funny moments but it's not the same.
i guess i'm not buying albums now

(i am not trying to be controversial, i understand what's happening and it's sad)
there is soundcloud for music, but i just really don't like using it.
 

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