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and you just called it the other day :jisoosmh:
ppl like to say all the crazy stuff about LSM and yes he worked the system in the early days and bent or broke a bunch of rules.
For the most part his artists resigned. some have been there more than 20 years.

but there is a reason so many Kids from japan come to Korea.
If i remember correct the j pop split is 10% at best.
The AKB girls are on a wage that is tied to popularity and ranking.

Juri in Rocket punch is happy making what has got to be peanuts compared to bp twice rv idle ive Nj ect and she was a team captian and multi year senbatsu member with many outside gigs. At a time when AKb sold 2-3 million each song and they did 3-5 a year.
 
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ppl like to say all the crazy stuff about LSM and yes he worked the system in the early days and bent or broke a bunch of rules.
For the most part his artists resigned. some have been there more than 20 years.

but there is a reason so many Kids from japan come to Korea.
If i remember correct the j pop split is 10% at best.
The AKB girls are on a wage that is tied to popularity and ranking.

Juri in Rocket punch is happy making what has got to be peanuts compared to bp twice rv idle ive Nj ect and she was a team captian and multi year senbatsu member with many outside gigs. At a time when AKb sold 2-3 million each song and they did 3-5 a year.
you mean 10% of the total income? So like if they have 48 girls, they split those 10%? :passcodea:

its sad to hear the japanese idols are paid so poorly :sanapray:
 
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you mean 10% of the total income? So like if they have 48 girls, they split those 10%? :passcodea:

its sad to hear the japanese idols are paid so poorly :sanapray:
no each girl can be signed to any agency, and from my recollection those agencies keep up to 90%( hopefully that is wrong or at least its from outside gigs.)
The pay to be a member of akb is a flat amount. i would guess that just has a minor commission since i think they have to be represented to get a job.

some answers i found. thankfully maybe my 90% was misremembered .

but i did find this.
Agencies take huuuuuge percentages of talent's pay in general. It's hard to estimate what they actually take home.

i think this is why so many members switch agencies as they get popular for better contracts.


AKB48 members (and this happens with the sister groups as well) are under yearly contracts for a fixed monthly salary (according to their activities within the group and the amount of time they have been in the group)

To that you can add the “bonuses” members get from being under 2 contracts (Their AKB48 contract and their agency contract, cuz yes, AKB48 members are signed under different agencies that manage them individually) so this could make them earn more, especially if they are promoting as a soloist or as part of an idol unit outside of their 48G.

Back in 2015, HKT48’s member Sashihara Rino was estimated to be earning a base salary of 68,000,000 yen (around 471000 USD). AKB48’s member Maeda Atsuko was estimated to be earning 20 million yen ( around $243,000 USD)

On the other hand, there were members like AKB48/SDN48’s member Megumi Ohori was said to earn around 540,000 yen a year (around 3700 USD) but then again SDN48 didn’t have that many activities and later disbanded.

So, It really depends on how many activities, seniority, and popularity the member has yet starting members are said to earn around 100000 yen a year (around 3 times the minimum salary)

Hoping this satisfactorily answers your question.



AFAIK members receive minimum wage.
The absolute lowest ranking ones may, they did in the past at least. But there was a show where some former members spilled the tea and discussed payment. They said they have an evaluation where they are rated out of 10 points on various categories like handshake sales, how well they're representing the group or something. I'm not sure what all the categories are. But the top end number that's been thrown around even before this evaluation stuff came out was something like $200k salary for top members, and then of course they make their own money(the big money for some) from outside work as you mention.

For some idea about what a midrange member might have made, one of the girls who was leaking a lot of this stuff Nishino Miki was complaining on a show that before she graduated that she could afford a $2100 per month apartment in Tokyo, and now has to live in one that's ike $800 or something. So we can assume that it's not just like minimum wage for everyone but the very top, since $2100 a month must have meant a decent salary unless she's crazy enough to spend most of her salary on rent, lol.

But yeah, like you said before outside jobs are where the real money is. I was pleased to find out that even marginalized girls on Team 8 apparently get lots of opportunity for outside work back in their home prefecture. That was on one of the recent AKBingo episodes. Also, I bet Toyota pays better than minimum wage. Although you never know.
 
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no each girl can be signed to any agency, and from my recollection those agencies keep up to 90%( hopefully that is wrong or at least its from outside gigs.)
The pay to be a member of akb is a flat amount. i would guess that just has a minor commission since i think they have to be represented to get a job.

some answers i found. thankfully maybe my 90% was misremembered .

but i did find this.
Agencies take huuuuuge percentages of talent's pay in general. It's hard to estimate what they actually take home.

i think this is why so many members switch agencies as they get popular for better contracts.


AKB48 members (and this happens with the sister groups as well) are under yearly contracts for a fixed monthly salary (according to their activities within the group and the amount of time they have been in the group)

To that you can add the “bonuses” members get from being under 2 contracts (Their AKB48 contract and their agency contract, cuz yes, AKB48 members are signed under different agencies that manage them individually) so this could make them earn more, especially if they are promoting as a soloist or as part of an idol unit outside of their 48G.

Back in 2015, HKT48’s member Sashihara Rino was estimated to be earning a base salary of 68,000,000 yen (around 471000 USD). AKB48’s member Maeda Atsuko was estimated to be earning 20 million yen ( around $243,000 USD)

On the other hand, there were members like AKB48/SDN48’s member Megumi Ohori was said to earn around 540,000 yen a year (around 3700 USD) but then again SDN48 didn’t have that many activities and later disbanded.

So, It really depends on how many activities, seniority, and popularity the member has yet starting members are said to earn around 100000 yen a year (around 3 times the minimum salary)

Hoping this satisfactorily answers your question.




The absolute lowest ranking ones may, they did in the past at least. But there was a show where some former members spilled the tea and discussed payment. They said they have an evaluation where they are rated out of 10 points on various categories like handshake sales, how well they're representing the group or something. I'm not sure what all the categories are. But the top end number that's been thrown around even before this evaluation stuff came out was something like $200k salary for top members, and then of course they make their own money(the big money for some) from outside work as you mention.

For some idea about what a midrange member might have made, one of the girls who was leaking a lot of this stuff Nishino Miki was complaining on a show that before she graduated that she could afford a $2100 per month apartment in Tokyo, and now has to live in one that's ike $800 or something. So we can assume that it's not just like minimum wage for everyone but the very top, since $2100 a month must have meant a decent salary unless she's crazy enough to spend most of her salary on rent, lol.

But yeah, like you said before outside jobs are where the real money is. I was pleased to find out that even marginalized girls on Team 8 apparently get lots of opportunity for outside work back in their home prefecture. That was on one of the recent AKBingo episodes. Also, I bet Toyota pays better than minimum wage. Although you never know.
but if that is true, they probably earn more than most kpop idols ever will, so now I'm not sure about your previous comment about everyone wanting to move to korea for the money :pepelook:
 
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but if that is true, they probably earn more than most kpop idols ever will, so now I'm not sure about your previous comment about everyone wanting to move to korea for the money :pepelook:
remember that is a tiny fraction of even the akb girls most earn very little its pretty much a part time job where they dress up.
say 20-30 girls made that money most of them debut in 2005-2008 that is old second gen kpop and now are doing other things.
Some own business ect.
i would guess of current akb members very few are making much at all. The glory days are gone.

also remember teh theater was open all like every day so some of the popular girls back in the day had 3-4 days off a year. ( where some girls now may get 5 days off a week (pre covid post covid the theaters were closed for years now shows are back but membership is dropping.)
it does hold with standing `250 ppl.

None of them are making Twice BP RV Ive NJ idle Ssera or even stay C money(not counting Yukirin cuz she is 3rd gen and has been a star for 15+ years) Yui Yui is prob the biggest earner now.. Remember Hitomi just finished 10 years in akb. i would bet 90-95% of her money came from IZ*ONE and the deals she was able to get in japan because of iz*one.

to put in context Sashihara Rino(92) is IU kind of money, and a true unicorn.

She owns and runs her own groups (=Love, ≠Me and ≒Joy). Made big big tv money for years.
 
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remember that is a tiny fraction of even the akb girls most earn very little its pretty much a part time job where they dress up.
say 20-30 girls made that money most of them debut in 2005-2008 that is old second gen kpop and now are doing other things.
Some own business ect.
i would guess of current akb members very few are making much at all. The glory days are gone.

also remember teh theater was open all like every day so some of the popular girls back in the day had 3-4 days off a year. ( where girls now may get 5 days off a week (pre covid post covid the theaters were closed for years now shows are back but membership is dropping.)
it does hold with standing `250 ppl.

None of them are making Twice BP RV Ive NJ idle Ssera or even stay C money(not counting Yukirin cuz she is 3rd gen and has been a star for 15+ years) Yui Yui is prob the biggest earner now.. Remember Hitomi just finished 10 years in akb. i would bet 90-95% of her money came from IZ*ONE and the deals she was able to get in japan because of iz*one.

to put in context Sashihara Rino(92) is IU kind of money, and a true unicorn.

She owns and runs her own groups (=Love, ≠Me and ≒Joy). Made big big tv money for years.
I understand, but I also have those stories in mind of former kpop idols that said they earned very little or left the industry with debt :cold_doge:

Probably for every Twice or BP, you have a big amount of groups that fall into that category :headhurt:

Even though it seems now that market got bigger, more groups can stustain themselfs and hopefully more idols get paid :thumbsupcat:
 
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I understand, but I also have those stories in mind of former kpop idols that said they earned very little or left the industry with debt :cold_doge:

Probably for every Twice or BP, you have a big amount of groups that fall into that category :headhurt:

Even though it seems now that market got bigger, more groups can stustain themselfs and hopefully more idols get paid :thumbsupcat:
I think the telling thing is how fast Sakura who was a star in akb world left to come back to Korea.

obv all the kids are dreaming of being i the 1-5 % but when girls in that area in Japan leave to try Korea its make me question the compensation structure.
 
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I think the telling thing is how fast Sakura who was a star in akb world left to come back to Korea.

obv all the kids are dreaming of being i the 1-5 % but when girls in that area in Japan leave to try Korea its make me question the compensation structure.
I could think a benefit of the kpop version is, as long as your group is doing well, you are doing well too. You don't have to fight for your spot at the spot every single day once you made it :thumbsupcat:

But I'm not sure, maybe you are also reading too much into it, I think young japanese are just like everyone else and get influenced by kpop and think its really cool, but unlike most of us, they have the best opportuntiy outside of koreans themselfs to make it.. so it could also be a reason why some of them try

Also Sakura, she experienced both, being a jpop and kpop idol, it seems she prefered the kpop version.. but who knows if money was her only motivation
 
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