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ADOR asks court to stop NewJeans' members from independently signing commercial deals

K-pop agency ADOR has asked the court to stop the NewJeans' members from independently signing commercial deals.

ADOR said Monday it submitted the injunction request to the Seoul Central District Court last week. The news comes amid the ongoing conflict between the agency and the quintet's members over the singers' exclusive contracts with ADOR.

The agency claimed that NewJeans members contacted advertisers in an effort to sign deals independently, despite the unresolved legal dispute over the validity of the group's exclusive contracts. ADOR said the legal move aims to reaffirm its authority as NewJeans' management agency and prevent the members from independently pursuing advertising contracts and activities without the agency's approval.

"This decision was made to prevent confusion and potential harm to third parties, including advertisers," ADOR said in a press release.

The NewJeans members claim that their contracts were terminated on Nov. 29 due to ADOR allegedly failing to meet its contractual obligations.

ADOR, however, maintains that the contracts remain in effect and filed a lawsuit on Dec. 5 to confirm their validity.

In Monday's press release, ADOR also warned of broader repercussions for the entertainment industry if NewJeans' actions are not addressed.

"Allowing unilateral terminations of exclusive contracts and independent activities without legal procedures could undermine investment in the entertainment industry and destabilize the K-pop sector," the company said.

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Min Hee-jin directs report on workplace harassment, leading to HYBE's clearance

The Ministry of Employment and Labor confirmed that it recently processed the workplace harassment case involving the management of the country's largest entertainment company, HYBE, as 'not guilty' (administratively closed).

This conclusion follows the report made by L, the former deputy representative known to be close to Min Hee-jin, the former head of ADOR, who reported multiple HYBE executives for workplace harassment, claiming that HYBE had conducted illegal audits by coercively collecting information assets last September.

CHOSUNBIZ confirmed that Min, the former representative, was deeply involved in directing L's report to the Ministry of Employment and Labor.

L is known to have also been involved in the plan to seize management rights from Min. ADOR is one of HYBE's labels (agencies). Since last year, there has been an ongoing legal dispute over the seizure of management rights between Min and HYBE.

According to a comprehensive industry report on the 13th, the Seoul Regional Employment and Labor Office under the Ministry of Employment and Labor stated last month, 'The workplace harassment at HYBE is not recognized,' and administratively closed the report made by L.

At that time, he reported five key executives, including Kim Joo-young, the head of ADOR, and Lee Kyung-jun, an internal director of ADOR (HYBE's chief financial officer), for workplace harassment.

The background of L's hasty report dates back to July of last year. At that time, a media outlet reported that L faced allegations of workplace harassment and sexual harassment, and that Min was attempting to cover up the incident. L was identified as a party involved in the workplace harassment.

According to reports, in March of last year, A (the victim) filed a report internally, stating that L had harassed her by making her join unwanted drinking events due to her role as the 'young female' person in charge and subsequently left her alone with an outsider, along with comments that were aggressively offensive.

Min, who was leading ADOR at the time, is reported to have instructed L during the initial investigation of the incident on how to respond, asking, 'Shouldn't we countercharge A with false accusations?' and 'Make sure to pressure them (life is a reality check).' He also specifically coached L on answers to the investigation.

Having heard this late, A claimed that fair investigations were not conducted due to the interference of CEO Min Hee-jin and others during the initial investigation, and demanded a re-investigation in August of last year.

ADOR announced in August of last year that it would conduct a re-investigation, and it was reported that it actually carried this out using an external agency. As the re-investigation proceeded, Min directed L again on how to respond.

According to a Telegram conversation obtained by CHOSUNBIZ (see top image), Min instructed L to report the HYBE and ADOR executives conducting the re-investigation for workplace harassment to the Ministry of Employment and Labor.

Min advised, 'The workplace harassment report is a counter-response to A's report and is an unspoken pressure to ensure both are investigated fairly,' to which L responded, 'Hearing you, it seems meaningful to report,' and 'To make it effective, I should stay a bit attached to the company.'

Min stated, 'Use vacation and sick leave appropriately while reporting and just hold out until September,' and it is known that L actually used vacation and sick leave to delay the re-investigation schedule. He also reported the HYBE executives for workplace harassment to the Ministry of Employment and Labor in September as directed.

As a result, there is an interpretation that L's report was conducted to obstruct the re-investigation according to Min's guidelines. The circumstances suggesting that Min intervened not only in the initial investigation but also in the re-investigation of L's sexual harassment case are expected to negatively affect future trials.

CHOSUNBIZ attempted to get a response from Min's side regarding this matter, contacting Min and the team responsible for his public relations at Mackoll Consulting Group several times, but was unable to reach them.

Meanwhile, A is reportedly known to have filed a complaint with the Seoul Western District Office of the Ministry of Employment and Labor against Min and L for unfair labor practices and labor-management irregularities in August of last year.

In addition, claiming that she is innocent, Min filed a lawsuit against A for breaching the Labor Standards Act and Personal Information Protection Act and spreading false information, demanding compensation of 100 million won, for allegedly leaking conversations with A without consent through social media (SNS) and other means.

Recently, during the mediation process held at the Seoul Western District Court, Min's side opposed, stating, 'We cannot acknowledge A's claims themselves,' and the matter is set to proceed to a formal trial.

Source: https://biz.chosun.com/en/en-industry/2025/01/13/VRZAXRZ6NRE2ZJK22CNIX7ZTLY/
 
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ADOR asks court to stop NewJeans' members from independently signing commercial deals

K-pop agency ADOR has asked the court to stop the NewJeans' members from independently signing commercial deals.

ADOR said Monday it submitted the injunction request to the Seoul Central District Court last week. The news comes amid the ongoing conflict between the agency and the quintet's members over the singers' exclusive contracts with ADOR.

The agency claimed that NewJeans members contacted advertisers in an effort to sign deals independently, despite the unresolved legal dispute over the validity of the group's exclusive contracts. ADOR said the legal move aims to reaffirm its authority as NewJeans' management agency and prevent the members from independently pursuing advertising contracts and activities without the agency's approval.

"This decision was made to prevent confusion and potential harm to third parties, including advertisers," ADOR said in a press release.

The NewJeans members claim that their contracts were terminated on Nov. 29 due to ADOR allegedly failing to meet its contractual obligations.

ADOR, however, maintains that the contracts remain in effect and filed a lawsuit on Dec. 5 to confirm their validity.

In Monday's press release, ADOR also warned of broader repercussions for the entertainment industry if NewJeans' actions are not addressed.

"Allowing unilateral terminations of exclusive contracts and independent activities without legal procedures could undermine investment in the entertainment industry and destabilize the K-pop sector," the company said.

Source: https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.co...ndependently-signing-commercial-deals/2221205
Why wait so long for this ?? should have been filed nov 30th.
 
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Min Hee-jin directs report on workplace harassment, leading to HYBE's clearance

The Ministry of Employment and Labor confirmed that it recently processed the workplace harassment case involving the management of the country's largest entertainment company, HYBE, as 'not guilty' (administratively closed).

This conclusion follows the report made by L, the former deputy representative known to be close to Min Hee-jin, the former head of ADOR, who reported multiple HYBE executives for workplace harassment, claiming that HYBE had conducted illegal audits by coercively collecting information assets last September.

CHOSUNBIZ confirmed that Min, the former representative, was deeply involved in directing L's report to the Ministry of Employment and Labor.

L is known to have also been involved in the plan to seize management rights from Min. ADOR is one of HYBE's labels (agencies). Since last year, there has been an ongoing legal dispute over the seizure of management rights between Min and HYBE.

According to a comprehensive industry report on the 13th, the Seoul Regional Employment and Labor Office under the Ministry of Employment and Labor stated last month, 'The workplace harassment at HYBE is not recognized,' and administratively closed the report made by L.

At that time, he reported five key executives, including Kim Joo-young, the head of ADOR, and Lee Kyung-jun, an internal director of ADOR (HYBE's chief financial officer), for workplace harassment.

The background of L's hasty report dates back to July of last year. At that time, a media outlet reported that L faced allegations of workplace harassment and sexual harassment, and that Min was attempting to cover up the incident. L was identified as a party involved in the workplace harassment.

According to reports, in March of last year, A (the victim) filed a report internally, stating that L had harassed her by making her join unwanted drinking events due to her role as the 'young female' person in charge and subsequently left her alone with an outsider, along with comments that were aggressively offensive.

Min, who was leading ADOR at the time, is reported to have instructed L during the initial investigation of the incident on how to respond, asking, 'Shouldn't we countercharge A with false accusations?' and 'Make sure to pressure them (life is a reality check).' He also specifically coached L on answers to the investigation.

Having heard this late, A claimed that fair investigations were not conducted due to the interference of CEO Min Hee-jin and others during the initial investigation, and demanded a re-investigation in August of last year.

ADOR announced in August of last year that it would conduct a re-investigation, and it was reported that it actually carried this out using an external agency. As the re-investigation proceeded, Min directed L again on how to respond.

According to a Telegram conversation obtained by CHOSUNBIZ (see top image), Min instructed L to report the HYBE and ADOR executives conducting the re-investigation for workplace harassment to the Ministry of Employment and Labor.

Min advised, 'The workplace harassment report is a counter-response to A's report and is an unspoken pressure to ensure both are investigated fairly,' to which L responded, 'Hearing you, it seems meaningful to report,' and 'To make it effective, I should stay a bit attached to the company.'

Min stated, 'Use vacation and sick leave appropriately while reporting and just hold out until September,' and it is known that L actually used vacation and sick leave to delay the re-investigation schedule. He also reported the HYBE executives for workplace harassment to the Ministry of Employment and Labor in September as directed.

As a result, there is an interpretation that L's report was conducted to obstruct the re-investigation according to Min's guidelines. The circumstances suggesting that Min intervened not only in the initial investigation but also in the re-investigation of L's sexual harassment case are expected to negatively affect future trials.

CHOSUNBIZ attempted to get a response from Min's side regarding this matter, contacting Min and the team responsible for his public relations at Mackoll Consulting Group several times, but was unable to reach them.

Meanwhile, A is reportedly known to have filed a complaint with the Seoul Western District Office of the Ministry of Employment and Labor against Min and L for unfair labor practices and labor-management irregularities in August of last year.

In addition, claiming that she is innocent, Min filed a lawsuit against A for breaching the Labor Standards Act and Personal Information Protection Act and spreading false information, demanding compensation of 100 million won, for allegedly leaking conversations with A without consent through social media (SNS) and other means.

Recently, during the mediation process held at the Seoul Western District Court, Min's side opposed, stating, 'We cannot acknowledge A's claims themselves,' and the matter is set to proceed to a formal trial.

Source: https://biz.chosun.com/en/en-industry/2025/01/13/VRZAXRZ6NRE2ZJK22CNIX7ZTLY/
well that was clear a s mud... I guess this is another win for Hybe v Min at least that is how i read it.
 

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Why wait so long for this ?? should have been filed nov 30th.
They only wrapped up all the Ador schedules recently and Hybes motto since they lost the MHJ injunction because she hadn't done anything to actually damage them at the time is to react to what they are actually doing so that reads to me like NewJeans have been trying to get deals without Ador involved.
 
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They only wrapped up all the Ador schedules recently and Hybes motto since they lost the MHJ injunction because she hadn't done anything to actually damage them at the time is to react to what they are actually doing so that reads to me like NewJeans have been trying to get deals without Ador involved.
We knew that though i thought. like the deal dani signed . Brands sending stuff dirrect to them. ect.
 
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We knew that though i thought. like the deal dani signed . Brands sending stuff dirrect to them. ect.
Is that one known concrete though? As with these deals usually being done months in advance it's possible Hybe had a say in the deal but NewJeans is interfering in how the deal is being promoted especially like the Vogue one with Min Heejin directing.
 
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Is that one known concrete though? As with these deals usually being done months in advance it's possible Hybe had a say in the deal but NewJeans is interfering in how the deal is being promoted especially like the Vogue one with Min Heejin directing.
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I think the one with the watch even ended up following the unofficial account then followed the official one after so at the very least they were confused on who to follow which won't go well for NewJeans
 
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I think the one with the watch even ended up following the unofficial account then followed the official one after so at the very least they were confused on who to follow which won't go well for NewJeans
Yeah they are clearly in violation until a court rules the contract void. I would really doubt any agency writes clauses, such that the artist can walk away pre term without consent for anything short of Felonious criminal acts by the agency.
 
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NewJeans’ dorm inspection by HYBE staff with body camera ignites furious backlash from fans

HYBE, the entertainment conglomerate behind global K-pop acts, is facing fierce criticism after reports surfaced of an employee inspecting the dormitory of NewJeans members with a body camera. Fans and netizens alike have expressed outrage, calling the act invasive and unnecessary.

The controversy began when a forum post on January 13, titled “A HYBE Employee Put A Body Camera and Entered NewJeans’ Members’ Dorm After They Left,” began making rounds on social media. The post referenced an excerpt from Ilgan Sports, which recounted the girl group’s final days under ADOR, a subsidiary of HYBE, and detailed the circumstances surrounding their departure.

Body Camera Inspection Sparks Criticism
According to the report, NewJeans officially vacated their dormitory in December 2024 following the conclusion of their contractual obligations with ADOR. Shortly after their departure, a HYBE staff member allegedly entered the premises wearing a body camera to conduct a thorough inspection.

“When NewJeans left the ADOR accommodation, HYBE staff, equipped with body cameras, inspected the dorm thoroughly in preparation,” the excerpt read.

This revelation caused an uproar among fans, with many voicing their discomfort and anger online. Comments flooded social media platforms, with one netizen declaring, “This is so creepy and invasive.”

Another fan expressed frustration, stating, “Instead of inspecting during the day, they chose to do this at night. It’s sick and disgusting.”

Some even accused HYBE of being overly controlling and intrusive, calling the act “vile” and “diabolical.”

Departure From ADOR and Legal Battles
The controversy comes amid a tumultuous period for NewJeans. The five-member group, consisting of Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein, announced their departure from ADOR on November 28, 2024. The decision reportedly led to several resignations within ADOR, including performance directors and managers who had worked closely with the group.

Adding to the tension, ADOR filed an injunction on January 13 to prevent the members from signing independent advertising contracts. The legal dispute further fuels speculation about strained relationships between the group and their former management.

Fans Demand Accountability
The dorm inspection incident has intensified criticism of HYBE’s treatment of idols, with many demanding transparency and accountability. “Why was a body camera even necessary?” questioned one netizen. Others have suggested that HYBE’s actions reflect broader issues within the K-pop industry regarding privacy and agency.

As fans rally behind NewJeans, the controversy highlights ongoing concerns over artist management practices. Neither HYBE nor ADOR has released an official statement addressing the allegations.

NewJeans, now operating independently, continues to capture global attention with their fresh talent and engaging performances. However, the group’s journey post-ADOR will likely remain under close scrutiny as fans and industry watchers anticipate further developments.

Source: https://www.brigadanews.ph/newjeans...dy-camera-ignites-furious-backlash-from-fans/
 
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Min Hee-jin discussed Ministry of Employment complaint with NewJeans' uncle

Min Hee-jin's private talks raise suspicions over NewJeans' workplace bullying case.

It has been confirmed that last September, former Adore CEO Min Hee-jin had questionable conversations related to the Ministry of Employment and Labor on Telegram with A, the uncle of a member of NewJeans. This coincided with a time when a fan reported that Hanni of NewJeans was being bullied in the workplace.

Concerns have been raised about a potential violation of the exclusive contract, as Min, who was serving as an internal director at Adore at the time, shared and discussed matters that could become negative issues for the artist's family and the company in advance. It is said that this acts against the duty of care of executives (the duty of a prudent manager).

According to Telegram messages obtained by CHOSUNBIZ on the 16th, on September 14, 2024, A said, 'Please give me a call since we started with the Ministry of Employment and Labor,' to which Min replied, 'I’m on an IV, so I’ll call you in the afternoon.'

In fact, B, who identified as a fan of NewJeans, filed a complaint on September 12 with the Ministry of Employment and Labor (Seoul Western Employment and Labor Office), urging the investigation into the bullying allegations against NewJeans by HYBE and for related individuals to be strictly punished if any illegal acts were found. It has also been confirmed that multiple fans of NewJeans filed a collective complaint in mid-September.

The incident originated from Hanni’s claim during a YouTube live broadcast on September 11, where she said, 'I greeted another artist and their manager in the hallway of the HYBE office, but the manager told me to “ignore it.”'

As the incident grew larger, Hanni testified as a witness during the National Assembly's Environment and Labor Committee audit in October last year, saying, 'I heard the manager of another team tell me to “ignore it,” and this issue was not a one-time occurrence.'

Reports have emerged suggesting that Min was aware of Hanni's attendance at the National Assembly audit in advance and encouraged it. The Ministry of Employment and Labor concluded the related complaint in November, saying Hanni is 'not a worker under the Labor Standards Act.'

There are two possible interpretations concerning the Telegram message saying, 'We have started with the Ministry of Employment and Labor.'

First, it could be asking if A has started any work related to the Ministry of Employment and Labor.

There is also the possibility that A is reporting to Min that they have started some work related to the Ministry of Employment and Labor.

Regardless of which is true, it indicates that Min was aware of activities related to the Ministry of Employment and Labor complaint beforehand, thus it is likely that allegations of involvement cannot be avoided.

Efforts were made to hear the position of Min’s side regarding this matter, but contact could not be established.

An industry source who requested anonymity noted, 'It seems difficult to confirm that either Min or A had engaged in specific activities directly with the Ministry of Employment and Labor based solely on parts of the Telegram conversation,' while adding, 'The fact that the producer and the artist's family discussed the complaint that could be seen as an attack on the company could be grounds for a violation of the exclusive contract.'

Allegations of tampering (contacting another agency or group before the current contract ends) concerning Min are expected to resurface.

Through multiple reports, it has been revealed that Min and A met with Park Jeong-kyu, the chairman of Davolink, an external investor, in August and September to discuss securing an investment of 5 billion won and whether they could 'bring NewJeans on board.'

Source: https://biz.chosun.com/en/en-industry/2025/01/16/PD5MKAND3ZHHHAGY4U54WFXATU/
Original Source: https://biz.chosun.com/industry/business-venture/2025/01/16/5KP6K3DNCZACVNSPSER6YB7PMA/
 
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Min Hee-jin discussed Ministry of Employment complaint with NewJeans' uncle

Min Hee-jin's private talks raise suspicions over NewJeans' workplace bullying case.

It has been confirmed that last September, former Adore CEO Min Hee-jin had questionable conversations related to the Ministry of Employment and Labor on Telegram with A, the uncle of a member of NewJeans. This coincided with a time when a fan reported that Hanni of NewJeans was being bullied in the workplace.

Concerns have been raised about a potential violation of the exclusive contract, as Min, who was serving as an internal director at Adore at the time, shared and discussed matters that could become negative issues for the artist's family and the company in advance. It is said that this acts against the duty of care of executives (the duty of a prudent manager).

According to Telegram messages obtained by CHOSUNBIZ on the 16th, on September 14, 2024, A said, 'Please give me a call since we started with the Ministry of Employment and Labor,' to which Min replied, 'I’m on an IV, so I’ll call you in the afternoon.'

In fact, B, who identified as a fan of NewJeans, filed a complaint on September 12 with the Ministry of Employment and Labor (Seoul Western Employment and Labor Office), urging the investigation into the bullying allegations against NewJeans by HYBE and for related individuals to be strictly punished if any illegal acts were found. It has also been confirmed that multiple fans of NewJeans filed a collective complaint in mid-September.

The incident originated from Hanni’s claim during a YouTube live broadcast on September 11, where she said, 'I greeted another artist and their manager in the hallway of the HYBE office, but the manager told me to “ignore it.”'

As the incident grew larger, Hanni testified as a witness during the National Assembly's Environment and Labor Committee audit in October last year, saying, 'I heard the manager of another team tell me to “ignore it,” and this issue was not a one-time occurrence.'

Reports have emerged suggesting that Min was aware of Hanni's attendance at the National Assembly audit in advance and encouraged it. The Ministry of Employment and Labor concluded the related complaint in November, saying Hanni is 'not a worker under the Labor Standards Act.'

There are two possible interpretations concerning the Telegram message saying, 'We have started with the Ministry of Employment and Labor.'

First, it could be asking if A has started any work related to the Ministry of Employment and Labor.

There is also the possibility that A is reporting to Min that they have started some work related to the Ministry of Employment and Labor.

Regardless of which is true, it indicates that Min was aware of activities related to the Ministry of Employment and Labor complaint beforehand, thus it is likely that allegations of involvement cannot be avoided.

Efforts were made to hear the position of Min’s side regarding this matter, but contact could not be established.

An industry source who requested anonymity noted, 'It seems difficult to confirm that either Min or A had engaged in specific activities directly with the Ministry of Employment and Labor based solely on parts of the Telegram conversation,' while adding, 'The fact that the producer and the artist's family discussed the complaint that could be seen as an attack on the company could be grounds for a violation of the exclusive contract.'

Allegations of tampering (contacting another agency or group before the current contract ends) concerning Min are expected to resurface.

Through multiple reports, it has been revealed that Min and A met with Park Jeong-kyu, the chairman of Davolink, an external investor, in August and September to discuss securing an investment of 5 billion won and whether they could 'bring NewJeans on board.'

Source: https://biz.chosun.com/en/en-industry/2025/01/16/PD5MKAND3ZHHHAGY4U54WFXATU/
Original Source: https://biz.chosun.com/industry/business-venture/2025/01/16/5KP6K3DNCZACVNSPSER6YB7PMA/
 
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NewJeans’ dorm inspection by HYBE staff with body camera ignites furious backlash from fans

HYBE, the entertainment conglomerate behind global K-pop acts, is facing fierce criticism after reports surfaced of an employee inspecting the dormitory of NewJeans members with a body camera. Fans and netizens alike have expressed outrage, calling the act invasive and unnecessary.

The controversy began when a forum post on January 13, titled “A HYBE Employee Put A Body Camera and Entered NewJeans’ Members’ Dorm After They Left,” began making rounds on social media. The post referenced an excerpt from Ilgan Sports, which recounted the girl group’s final days under ADOR, a subsidiary of HYBE, and detailed the circumstances surrounding their departure.

Body Camera Inspection Sparks Criticism
According to the report, NewJeans officially vacated their dormitory in December 2024 following the conclusion of their contractual obligations with ADOR. Shortly after their departure, a HYBE staff member allegedly entered the premises wearing a body camera to conduct a thorough inspection.

“When NewJeans left the ADOR accommodation, HYBE staff, equipped with body cameras, inspected the dorm thoroughly in preparation,” the excerpt read.

This revelation caused an uproar among fans, with many voicing their discomfort and anger online. Comments flooded social media platforms, with one netizen declaring, “This is so creepy and invasive.”

Another fan expressed frustration, stating, “Instead of inspecting during the day, they chose to do this at night. It’s sick and disgusting.”

Some even accused HYBE of being overly controlling and intrusive, calling the act “vile” and “diabolical.”

Departure From ADOR and Legal Battles
The controversy comes amid a tumultuous period for NewJeans. The five-member group, consisting of Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein, announced their departure from ADOR on November 28, 2024. The decision reportedly led to several resignations within ADOR, including performance directors and managers who had worked closely with the group.

Adding to the tension, ADOR filed an injunction on January 13 to prevent the members from signing independent advertising contracts. The legal dispute further fuels speculation about strained relationships between the group and their former management.

Fans Demand Accountability
The dorm inspection incident has intensified criticism of HYBE’s treatment of idols, with many demanding transparency and accountability. “Why was a body camera even necessary?” questioned one netizen. Others have suggested that HYBE’s actions reflect broader issues within the K-pop industry regarding privacy and agency.

As fans rally behind NewJeans, the controversy highlights ongoing concerns over artist management practices. Neither HYBE nor ADOR has released an official statement addressing the allegations.

NewJeans, now operating independently, continues to capture global attention with their fresh talent and engaging performances. However, the group’s journey post-ADOR will likely remain under close scrutiny as fans and industry watchers anticipate further developments.

Source: https://www.brigadanews.ph/newjeans...dy-camera-ignites-furious-backlash-from-fans/
Why the outrage ?

The body cam is to cover the employees/companies ass. for suits ect.
 
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Why the outrage ?

The body cam is to cover the employees/companies ass. for suits ect.
If I had to guess the outage is more of the fact that
1. it occured at 3am (which doesn't seem like a particular inspection time; and
2. the footage and some pictures were leaked to DC gallery or something
 
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If I had to guess the outage is more of the fact that
1. it occured at 3am (which doesn't seem like a particular inspection time; and
2. the footage and some pictures were leaked to DC gallery or something
The girls are not living there, right? So there is no issue maybe they are sick busy and working crazy hours. I know kids today have no concept of work, but i have been on the job at 3 am 100's of times.
 
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The girls are not living there, right? So there is no issue maybe they are sick busy and working crazy hours. I know kids today have no concept of work, but i have been on the job at 3 am 100's of times.
I understand but house inspections though???
just seems weird at that particular time

but I think it's more of the second issue than the first
 
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I understand but house inspections though???
just seems weird at that particular time

but I think it's more of the second issue than the first
They are essentially landlords for a sub-let space, they have to do inspections.
Also there is likely company property in the apartments that should be inventoried.
all the iphones ipads ect if company bought for example. ( though they would have to be stone cold morons to have not self purchased brand new ones in anticipation of the ...exit. [ but any company messaging/data apps used on the personal devices provide a back door to all the data one the devices depending on how thing are written)
The ee's may have taken some with them when they left. (ie stolen :p)
The kids and the parents are trying to play it both ways.
 
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