News BTS' SUGA thanks COVID-19 for letting him finish mixtape, which includes a Jim Jones sample (2 Viewers)

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This is probably the biggest thing on kpop reddit the past few days and I don't think anyone has posted about it on here yet.



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- BTS rapper SUGA went live on thursday to talk about his new mixtape under his Agust D moniker, D-2

- SUGA commented that because of schedule changes caused by COVID-19 he had time add two extra songs and film a music video for 'Daechwita'. "A luck that COVID-19 brought. Not because of, but thanks to COVID-19, we have 'Daechwita'. If we were still touring I wouldn't have been able to shoot the music video."
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- During the peak of the COVID-19 outbreak in South Korea, SUGA donated 100 million won (US$82,297) to the Hope Bridge Korea Disaster Relief Association, according to the association.

- D-2's third track 'What do you think?' opens with a sample of one of Jim Jones' sermons

- Jim Jones was the cult leader who led a mass murder-suicide of his followers in his commune at Jonestown. Of the 909 people who lived and died in Jonestown in November 1978, the vast majority (around 70%) were Black people.


Some of the comments from reddit:

"Jim Jones, an American Preacher turned cult leader, directed a mass murder suicide of his followers in the 1978. 909 people died, with roughly 1/3 of them being children through cyanide poisonings. Yea, what made him think sampling this was okay?"

"For all of you saying he didn’t produce the song
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"Honestly it’s whatever that people dont know who Jim Jones is but the excuse of “Suga probably didn’t know who he is” is INEXCUSABLE because if you look up or use this kind of audio clip there is bound to be background with it and maybe if he stopped to read or even THINK about what this clip was this wouldn’t have happened."

"I have researched this Jim Jones shit for hours after his mixtape was released until i finally found where he got it from and I am very disappointed in how deep he must've dug into this to find that tape.. This is saddening."
 

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Oh i think there is almost two messes here. I get the Covid stuff, he had more time, but the wording is off a bit. Especially when plp have been quite sensitive towards celebrities posting about covid.

The sample is probably larger issue? I think depending on lyrics it could be ok to me, if it's social commentary though it's still pretty controversial. But from the reddit link, they were talking about using it as aesthetic which rly isn't wisest.
 

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Oh i think there is almost two messes here. I get the Covid stuff, he had more time, but the wording is off a bit. Especially when plp have been quite sensitive towards celebrities posting about covid.

The sample is probably larger issue? I think depending on lyrics it could be ok to me, if it's social commentary though it's still pretty controversial. But from the reddit link, they were talking about using it as aesthetic which rly isn't wisest.
Yeah I think we can imagine what he meant with the "thanking Covid-19" but the wording he used is really just way off.
 

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The Covid stuff was just poor wording on his part imo, but sampling the Jim Jones stuff, yikes. There's no way he didn't know who the man was and made a conscious decision to do it.

Ofc with how massive the fandom is, he'll be shielded but it's a pretty nonsensical thing to do.
 

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Let's not forget that Jim Jones also killed 2 BBC reporters (one survived)
That's like using David Parker Ray's audiotape in your song.
These things are hard to find unless you know about it.
I wonder how the true crime community will react to this tbh. Jonestown massacre is very popular for the newbies.

Anyways, the fact that JK went out during covid as well is extra yikes. 2 members of the same group acted insensitively about the virus.
 
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Let's not forget that Jim Jones also killed 2 BBC reporters (one died)
That's like using David Parker Ray's audiotape in your song.
These things are hard to find unless you know about it.
I wonder how the true crime community will react to this tbh. Jonestown massacre is very popular for the newbies.

Anyways, the fact that JK went out during covid as well is extra yikes. 2 members of the same group acted insensitively about the virus.
well ARMY's are BTS's own cult so... ... Don't drink from any Koolaid from ARMY's.

(just kidding please don't kill me folks- I do not think ARMY are sasaeng enough to pull that sheet)

Edit: History of bad speeches aside I think it's hard to find anyone you'll really be frowned apon for using unless it's a certian German guy.
 

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well ARMY's are BTS's own cult so... ... Don't drink from any Koolaid from ARMY's.

(just kidding please don't kill me folks- I do not think ARMY are sasaeng enough to pull that sheet)
They can make ARMYtown or something
away from the internet
 
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alright, in my opinion, this is... distasteful. there are a lot of preachers he could have used... Jim Jones was the leader of a cult and forced 900, men, women, and children to poison themselves, I don't think this was the right way to go.

it doesn’t help either that his song from my understanding doesn’t even relate to the quote.
 

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You know If we don't quit the ARMY are going to start talking abotu the best place to hide our bodies.
I love true crime
I'm ready for my fellow sleuths to solve the mystery behind my murder
 
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alright, in my opinion, this is... distasteful. there are a lot of preachers he could have used... Jim Jones was the leader of a cult and forced 900, men, women, and children to poison themselves, I don't think this was the right way to go.

it doesn’t help either that his song from my understanding doesn’t even relate to the quote.
Well wouldn't be the first time a BTS member did something that walked on someones grave
 

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