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Tbh even with YGE not sending BP to shows, I'll be VERY surprised if they don't win a single Daesang this year, surely not all shows will snub them :jisoosmh:
 
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How many more snubs do we have to go through :pepecry1:
probably a lot more, i don't even know how mama is going to give girl group of the year to anyone else but bp... like bp is in a caliber so high this year that every female award really should just go to them like it does when its bts. but you know... mama will find a way to justify their decision for giving girl group of the year to another gg lmao
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Tbh even with YGE not sending BP to shows, I'll be VERY surprised if they don't win a single Daesang this year, surely not all shows will snub them :jisoosmh:
that's what I thought in 2018, and then bp never got a daesang. I'm not getting my hopes up when it comes to Korean award shows anymore...
 

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that's what I thought in 2018, and then bp never got a daesang. I'm not getting my hopes up when it comes to Korean award shows anymore...
Well you could still argue about physicals in 2018, and despite D4 being the biggest GG hit, Twice also had hits. Not AS big but still.
This year, the only GG with hit songs other than BP is Oh My Girl and they're obviously not winning. Plus, BP outsold every girl group.

So I'll be shocked if they actually don't win anything again.
 
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Well you could still argue about physicals in 2018, and despite D4 being the biggest GG hit, Twice also had hits. Not AS big but still.
This year, the only GG with hit songs other than BP is Oh My Girl and they're obviously not winning. Plus, BP outsold every girl group.

So I'll be shocked if they actually don't win anything again.
They may not even out sell everyone, the problem is they have a small (if consistently well selling ) catalogue.
Twice is well over a million sold for the year as iz one especially if they count Japan.
 
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Well you could still argue about physicals in 2018, and despite D4 being the biggest GG hit, Twice also had hits. Not AS big but still.
This year, the only GG with hit songs other than BP is Oh My Girl and they're obviously not winning. Plus, BP outsold every girl group.

So I'll be shocked if they actually don't win anything again.
still bp did really well in 2018 when it came to physicals and had the biggest mini album of the year like they were 2nd only to bts who had a full album, when it comes to digital points with FOUR songs. two of those songs ended up becoming national hits... that basically never happens. they should have won girl group of the year in 2018 and record of the year...
but I understand where you're coming from, the competition was definitely more tight in 2018, but this year belongs to Blackpink, it would be shameful for any other group to win in female categories. but you never know...
 
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aaa lying, not surprised :wimwim:
 

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I get being upset that they didn't win but it's actually pretty disgusting of you to imply that other groups should be ashamed of winning an award from there and that they're charity awards just because your faves got snubbed. There was literally no need for that. Yes, BP did deserve an award, but it's South Korea, and you said yourself they haven't attended in 4 years, so who knows what's going on behind the scenes. We all know companies get into petty spats and it affects groups.

That said, every awards show has an eligibility period, what they count as their "year" in music. Blackpink only got the first week sales record last month, which, depending when it was certified, may have been after their cutoff period. Which would mean that, for the time frame considered, they were factually correct to call IZ*ONE the group with the highest first week sales. That's how all awards shows work and it doesn't mean they don't recognize that accomplishment, it just means it wasn't eligible for inclusion that year.
 
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Not to be mean..
the awards arent off just sales..
and yes bp has good sales

bp barely does anything in korea itself
and the songs itself have barely any korean in them
1min38 secs of a 3min12secs song is english [and that including parts without singing]
so over 50%

i would argue bp is more an American group than a kpop group now tbh
 
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Not to be mean..
the awards arent off just sales..
and yes bp has good sales

bp barely does anything in korea itself
and the songs itself have barely any korean in them
1min38 secs of a 3min12secs song is english [and that including parts without singing]
so over 50%

i would argue bp is more an American group than a kpop group now tbh
they are basically off of sales and achievements, lets not try and pull the whole "AAA is about quality" because it's not. It's an attendance award, if you go to the award show you get an award.

also, bp does promote in Korea and America equally, and two of their biggest hits this year have been their Korean songs, not their English songs. that argument is just stupid. bts hasn't promoted in korea since 2017 and they're still sweeping the awards at Korean award show. blackpink is not known as an "American group", they're main appeal is that they are a kpop group. they've never claimed they were anything other than kpop.
 
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Not to be mean..
the awards arent off just sales..
and yes bp has good sales

bp barely does anything in korea itself
and the songs itself have barely any korean in them
1min38 secs of a 3min12secs song is english [and that including parts without singing]
so over 50%

i would argue bp is more an American group than a kpop group now tbh
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I get being upset that they didn't win but it's actually pretty disgusting of you to imply that other groups should be ashamed of winning an award from there and that they're charity awards just because your faves got snubbed. There was literally no need for that. Yes, BP did deserve an award, but it's South Korea, and you said yourself they haven't attended in 4 years, so who knows what's going on behind the scenes. We all know companies get into petty spats and it affects groups.

That said, every awards show has an eligibility period, what they count as their "year" in music. Blackpink only got the first week sales record last month, which, depending when it was certified, may have been after their cutoff period. Which would mean that, for the time frame considered, they were factually correct to call IZ*ONE the group with the highest first week sales. That's how all awards shows work and it doesn't mean they don't recognize that accomplishment, it just means it wasn't eligible for inclusion that year.
so you agree? AAA is biased against bp because of the company they come from and because they didn't want to go to their award show?? and I don't think i ever said it was a charity award (even though it is) I said it was an attendance award. which is true, AAA has been making up categories for the past few years so basically, every group that attends gets an award. id argue that their daesangs should realistically have no meaning considering they've been just making up new ones every single year in an attempt to appease fans. I said that I would be embarrassed, not that other groups should be. big difference. nowhere did I insult any group over winning at the awards, just calling out the stupid bias that award shows like AAA has against bp. there's nothing "disgusting" about the truth.

also no, they knew what they were doing when they said that IZONE had the biggest first week sales. if kpop fans who aren't even interested in bp, know about bps first week sales, then industry professionals should know not to spread information like that. it doesn't matter if they once held the record, it shouldn't have been mentioned period.
 
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they are basically off of sales and achievements, lets not try and pull the whole "AAA is about quality" because it's not. It's an attendance award, if you go to the award show you get an award.

also, bp does promote in Korea and America equally, and two of their biggest hits this year have been their Korean songs, not their English songs. that argument is just stupid. bts hasn't promoted in korea since 2017 and they're still sweeping the awards at Korean award show. blackpink is not known as an "American group", they're main appeal is that they are a kpop group. they've never claimed they were anything other than kpop.
i dont think either bts or bp are "kpop groups" anymore
there on a whole different level
and dont work like a standard kpop group anymore
and no need with the "stupid" rubbish you sound like toxic twitter
people can have different opinions without being rude
im not the only person who feel the way i do and same with you

and aaa is voted by people within there own team..
same with grammys etc etc
so who wins will be based on the show opinion
no matter what sales you have
korea/japan etc public opinion will matter more than the west for the aaa's
yes if we went fully on sales etc bp and bts would win the whole show and no1 would care for it..
cause no other artist would attend and no other fandoms would watch.. the show prob wouldn't even happen
just awards posted on twitter...
so attendance has small sway obviously the company would be foolish if it didnt
but this also happens with western award shows
 

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i dont think either bts or bp are "kpop groups" anymore
there on a whole different level
and dont work like a standard kpop group anymore
and no need with the "stupid" rubbish you sound like toxic twitter
people can have different opinions without being rude
im not the only person who feel the way i do and same with you

and aaa is voted by people within there own team..
same with grammys etc etc
so who wins will be based on the show opinion
no matter what sales you have
korea/japan etc public opinion will matter more than the west for the aaa's
yes if we went fully on sales etc bp and bts would win the whole show and no1 would care for it..
cause no other artist would attend and no other fandoms would watch.. the show prob wouldn't even happen
just awards posted on twitter...
so attendance has small sway obviously the company would be foolish if it didnt
but this also happens with western award shows
I don't understand how korean groups with korean members singing korean songs based in korea are anything but Korean. They may promote in the states and occasionally make songs catered towards the west but that's never been an issue for idol groups that go to Japan or China. Here in the states, we definitely don't view either group as native

Even factoring out western sales and charting, both BP and BTS dominated in Korea this year physically and digitally. BP promoted super heavily in Korea for the last few comebacks

You are right that it comes down to the award shows opinions but we're perfectly right to call it into question when they ignore the biggest stars this year
 
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I don't understand how korean groups with korean members singing korean songs based in korea are anything but Korean. They may promote in the states and occasionally make songs catered towards the west but that's never been an issue for idol groups that go to Japan or China. Here in the states, we definitely don't view either group as native

Even factoring out western sales and charting, both BP and BTS dominated in Korea this year physically and digitally. BP promoted super heavily in Korea for the last few comebacks

You are right that it comes down to the award shows opinions but we're perfectly right to call it into question when they ignore the biggest stars this year
i just think the whole bp should won it just cause they have more sales is bullshit
cause that not how any award show works..
and they never will

alot more goes into it...

yes i agree they should of won something

i would argue with all the political speak recently [with bts military etc]
a award for...a daesang for
western influence... or spreading asia music ...how ever they want to word it...
should of went to blackpink or bts
and that should of been only awarded most sales and views on a western platform [spotify or youtube maybe both]
 

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i just think the whole bp should won it just cause they have more sales is bullshit
cause that not how any award show works..
and they never will

alot more goes into it...

yes i agree they should of won something

i would argue with all the political speak recently [with bts military etc]
a award for...a daesang for
western influence... or spreading asia music ...how ever they want to word it...
should of went to blackpink or bts
and that should of been only awarded most sales and views on a western platform [spotify or youtube maybe both]
Award shows are, in part, supposed what was popular within the country, what was successful and who did well with in the year. They've always been heavily dependant on sales. Even if you bring up the quality argument, I'm not seeing or hearing anything that puts them below the other groups (however one determines quality of a group)
You keep bringing up western influence and completely skip over the immense amount of impact BTS and Blackpink have had In Korea.
Lovesick Girls, HYLT, ON, Dynamite and Black Swan are the most successful songs released this year. Mots7, HYYT, and The Album have incredibly high Hanteo sales
 
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Award shows are, in part, supposed what was popular within the country, what was successful and who did well with in the year. They've always been heavily dependant on sales. Even if you bring up the quality argument, I'm not seeing or hearing anything that puts them below the other groups (however one determines quality of a group)
You keep bringing up western influence and completely skip over the immense amount of impact BTS and Blackpink have had In Korea.
Lovesick Girls, HYLT, ON, Dynamite and Black Swan are the most successful songs released this year. Mots7, HYYT, and The Album have incredibly high Hanteo sales
it safe to say we arent going to agree
so imma leave it here :]
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