I had no idea the gap was this big (1 Viewer)

[RandAlThor]

with all the crap...

This should again prove that it is highly unlikely that any sub group will compete.




idle are seniors
itzy and txt are big company monsters.

companies are praying that they can get some success, but not likely.

 

[RandAlThor]

@Wiz*one

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

with all the crap...

This should again prove that it is highly unlikely that any sub group will compete.
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companies are praying that they can get some success, but not likely.

I just had this thot reading this thread: -
The companies who signed the members arent getting as much as they think they could from izone tho.

Jump to, think of pd grps as Avengers/Justice League-(it doesnt match perfectly, work with me here). If izone/ioi are the avengers/justice league to members, ie Captain America, Superman, Batman, Iron Man- different individual members enjoy more popularity than others.

If each superhero was actually signed to a different co.(hey i just thot of a perfect match-spiderman, its too complicated to explain.) Sony-ie yuehua n other co. tat match in izone example want to maximise profits for themselves.

Just as Sony eventually will take away their toy/belonging from MCU, so the co. will debut their member in new group/solo under their own agency(unless possibly Spiderman 4 flops, then Sony might go running bk to Marvel for Spidey to join Avengers 2.0-i dont see tat happening with izone tho, much less a long term IOI thing.)

I finally see a parallel where i highly sympathise with u Rand, tho its a thin slice of similarity.(my take is ill nvr stan a produce/temporary grp but spidey is from my childhood/marvel spidey-tom holland isnt the same tho, but similar enuf.)

I hope u understand my comparison n dont think im undervaluing/devaluing izone(just tat im not into them/too many pitfalls to a produce/temporary grp for me to stan{so far}. Still there's redebut(s) ahead{no more Iron Man/Evans Cap/Supes Cavill/Batfleck r unlikely}.(i dint start this post with a clear plan, just idea of company profit n it led me -> here.)

 

[RandAlThor]

I just had this thot reading this thread: -
The companies who signed the members arent getting as much as they think they could from izone tho.

Jump to, think of pd grps as Avengers/Justice League-(it doesnt match perfectly, work with me here). If izone/ioi are the avengers/justice league to members, ie Captain America, Superman, Batman, Iron Man- different individual members enjoy more popularity than others.

If each superhero was actually signed to a different co.(hey i just thot of a perfect match-spiderman, its too complicated to explain.) Sony-ie yuehua n other co. tat match in izone example want to maximise profits for themselves.

Just as Sony eventually will take away their toy/belonging from MCU, so the co. will debut their member in new group/solo under their own agency(unless possibly Spiderman 4 flops, then Sony might go running bk to Marvel for Spidey to join Avengers 2.0-i dont see tat happening with izone tho, much less a long term IOI thing.)

I finally see a parallel where i highly sympathise with u Rand, tho its a thin slice of similarity.(my take is ill nvr stan a produce/temporary grp but spidey is from my childhood/marvel spidey-tom holland isnt the same tho, but similar enuf.)

I hope u understand my comparison n dont think im undervaluing/devaluing izone(just tat im not into them/too many pitfalls to a produce/temporary grp for me to stan{so far}. Still there's redebut(s) ahead{no more Iron Man/Evans Cap/Supes Cavill/Batfleck r unlikely}.(i dint start this post with a clear plan, just idea of company profit n it led me -> here.)

Marvel sold off spidy and x men when they were struggling.

sony has had issues concept wise v the MCU and getting consistency. Better than dc over all but not much.

The MCU has its problems now with all of the og avengers bailing. cpt marvel cant cut it.
They wanan take strange darker or he could have done it.
Spidy is a kid with kid issues.

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

Marvel sold off spidy and x men when they were struggling.

sony has had issues concept wise v the MCU and getting consistency. Better than dc over all but not much.

The MCU has its problems now with all of the og avengers bailing. cpt marvel cant cut it.
They wanan take strange darker or he could have done it.
Spidy is a kid with kid issues.

To me, spidey-holland isnt comics-spidey (imo)- (comics)~spidey had to learn everything on his own b4 he was ever in a grp/notwithstanding teamups. Spidey-holland knows the Avengers r only 1 step away from helping/backing him up(even tho tony/steve-cap/thor r probably not ever gonna turn up again/unless thor does).

N when Spiderman 4 with holland hits, r the avengers even in his universe by then? Spidey-holland is not the peter parker spidey im used to, even if garfield also kinda wasnt. Maguire started out strong but mostly flopped by the 3rd one.

Re: marvel selling spidey/xmen, interestingly -Sony was offered to buy marvel comics at one point in the 90s i think but thot it was overpriced/not valuable longterm. Look who's counting their coins now. Disney/marvel/lucas.(i read a book abt how sony got into the american movie industry n was gouged out of millions by Guber/Peters, the ones who claimed credit for Batman 1989. Very interesting: "Hit and Run: How Jon Peters and Peter Guber Took Sony for a Ride in Hollywood", from 1996-so it was known even then. Imagine if Sony bought marvel during/after then instead. Or Paramount/another studio than Columbia/tristar.n dint get guber/peters to run it. How xmen/spidey might be bigger than avengers today. But big companies dont know how to predict the future n be nimble n flexible. Same with izone n its feeder companies, maybe.

 

[RandAlThor]

To me, spidey-holland isnt comics-spidey (imo)- (comics)~spidey had to learn everything on his own b4 he was ever in a grp/notwithstanding teamups. Spidey-holland knows the Avengers r only 1 step away from helping/backing him up(even tho tony/steve-cap/thor r probably not ever gonna turn up again/unless thor does).

N when Spiderman 4 with holland hits, r the avengers even in his universe by then? Spidey-holland is not the peter parker spidey im used to, even if garfield also kinda wasnt. Maguire started out strong but mostly flopped by the 3rd one.

Re: marvel selling spidey/xmen, interestingly -Sony was offered to buy marvel comics at one point in the 90s i think but thot it was overpriced/not valuable longterm. Look who's counting their coins now. Disney/marvel/lucas.(i read a book abt how sony got into the american movie industry n was gouged out of millions by Guber/Peters, the ones who claimed credit for Batman 1989. Very interesting: "Hit and Run: How Jon Peters and Peter Guber Took Sony for a Ride in Hollywood", from 1996-so it was known even then. Imagine if Sony bought marvel during/after then instead. Or Paramount/another studio than Columbia/tristar.n dint get guber/peters to run it. How xmen/spidey might be bigger than avengers today. But big companies dont know how to predict the future n be nimble n flexible. Same with izone n its feeder companies, maybe.

Spidey is brutal to get wrong because i think he is the toon many many connected with.
Since the days with comics in newspapers.

spidy 3 with Mag broke it.
holland spidy is not correct but it is fun. and a smokin hot aunt mae while it kills the og origin story is interesting.

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

Spidey is brutal to get wrong because i think he is the toon many many connected with.
Since the days with comics in newspapers.

spidy 3 with Mag broke it.
holland spidy is not correct but it is fun. and a smokin hot aunt mae while it kills the og origin story is interesting.

I had a theory waaaay after watching Spidey far from home- spideyholland is the spidey for now cos everyone wants to be in the in gang, imo. If you look at 80s movies/shows like breakfast club, sixteen candles n those types-everyone was an outsider; not in the in gang smh.even luke skywalker was a rebel. Nowadays Poe n Spidey are in a cool club n belong. Swhy even b4 spideyholland, all the fans wanted spidey in mcu/avengers. So he belongs, n by extension so do they. But tats not my spidey, og spidey dint belong until he grew up n became senior to all the new heroes, circa 2000s when he joined the (comics) new avengers, he'd already proved himself n could mentor mattie franklin/other heroes(iirc).

Just my theory. Opinion. Neither is better smh, just different hero for different eras. Even ultimate spidey comic(circa 2000 but different universe from og spidey dint feel like spideyholland. They replaced ult spidey with spidey miles morales.

 

[yeji]

izone forver