4 work day week: is it realistic? (2 Viewers)

[brekker]

there have been talks in several countries about the implementation of "4 workday week".is it doable? would it work for you?

 

[Yili]

it's been a while since i've had a real job that is full time so i can't say for sure. but i think it would be doable for me as i'm used to cramming more shifts into fewer days so i have more days completely off

 

[brekker]

it's been a while since i've had a real job that is full time so i can't say for sure. but i think it would be doable for me as i'm used to cramming more shifts into fewer days so i have more days completely off

but would you have to do 12-hours shifts? that for me would be a big disadvantage.

 

[Yili]

but would you have to do 12-hours shifts? that for me would be a big disadvantage.

12 hours is pretty bad it depends on the job, if it's physical heavy i couldn't but if it's more of a desk job i could.

 

[eclipsoul]

i'm unemployed as we speak but to me spending half of my day working sounds like torture

 

[RandAlThor]

4 10 's is not awful.

my cousin used to do 4 10's and 3 13's so could get a whole week off :)

 

[blueberries]

I feel like part time work has become more common as has irregular work hours so it might become one option in the future. I don't know if it would become mainstream though. I don't think most would trade one less workday for lower income (around 20%) although some would either because they aren't breadwinner of the family anyways or because they have high enough hourly wage.

 

[Magician]

The parents in my nursery school would kill us if they have to take care of their child one day more than necessary lol

 

[brekker]

The parents in my nursery school would kill us if they have to take care of their child one day more than necessary lol

imagine ... taking care of your OWN CHILD. oh my Gooood! :D

 

[RandAlThor]

4 10's is not horrid if you really can do just the 10, but its travel and lunch ect that screeches that into 12 -13 let alone if you need to stay for any reason.

And for sure they will want exempt ee's to stay .

 

[Abeamus]

I think I'd prefer to just work the extra day as doing 12 hour shifts would probably give you absolutely no time for yourself between that, sleeping and everything you do throughout the day and that'd have a bad effect on your mood for those days

 

[RandAlThor]

imagine ... taking care of your OWN CHILD. oh my Gooood! :D

That is all all school is mostly in a good chunk of the us for sure.

 

[Magician]

imagine ... taking care of your OWN CHILD. oh my Gooood! :D

I can't wait to hear all the complaints when my nursery school reopens after summer holidays

 

[Mew]

It varies, alot of places in my field do this already (childcare) so it's usually a 8am-6pm shift (with breaks In between) for four days, with one day off.
This would only work for me if my son was older, as at the age he his now I haven't go extra childcare beyond 6pm... Its easier at the moment to spread my hours across 5 days..so atypical 9 to 5 or 8 to 5..

Building Security works similar I think, on a 4 on 4 off basis, a total of 12 hours shifts. My son father does that on night shift they are pretty killer.

 

[brekker]

It varies, alot of places in my field do this already (childcare) so it's usually a 8am-6pm shift (with breaks In between) for four days, with one day off.
This would only work for me if my son was older, as at the age he his now I haven't go extra childcare beyond 6pm... Its easier at the moment to spread my hours across 5 days..so atypical 9 to 5 or 8 to 5..

Building Security works similar I think, on a 4 on 4 off basis, a total of 12 hours shifts. My son father does that on night shift they are pretty killer.

off topic but I must admire that the childcare closes so late! here it´s usually 4:30 pm and then the children have to go wherever. there is also no childcare for children over 8 at most schools. they finish school at 2pm.
Britain ♥

 

[Mew]

off topic but I must admire that the childcare closes so late! here it´s usually 4:30 pm and then the children have to go wherever. there is also no childcare for children over 8 at most schools. they finish school at 2pm.
Britain ♥

Yeah were pretty lucky,
however that's where my problem lies, it works well for alot of other jobs that have the classic 9 to 5 hours, like my sons school does breakfast clubs starts at 7.30am til the school starts and then they have after school club till about 3.40pm to 6pm. But working in nurserys they have the same hours so I can never do a full time shift of 8 to 6..
Plus being home this past year has been great, I dont know if my kid's ready to go back to long school days.... I might go back to part time...still debating it though.
But Its kinda like we have no excuse not to work since we're have longer childcare times, we even have free funding for 2 to 4 year olds for like half days in some places so 8am to 1pm or 1pm to 6pm... So there's insentive for parents to work I guess.

 

[brekker]

Yeah were pretty lucky,
however that's where my problem lies, it works well for alot of other jobs that have the classic 9 to 5 hours, like my sons school does breakfast clubs starts at 7.30am til the school starts and then they have after school club till about 3.40pm to 6pm. But working in nurserys they have the same hours so I can never do a full time shift of 8 to 6..
Plus being home this past year has been great, I dont know if my kid's ready to go back to long school days.... I might go back to part time...still debating it though.
But Its kinda like we have no excuse not to work since we're have longer childcare times, we even have free funding for 2 to 4 year olds for like half days in some places so 8am to 1pm or 1pm to 6pm... So there's insentive for parents to work I guess.

I mean it depends on your concrete job. I can imagine how for many jobs that could be simply impossible and longer shifts would necessarily have to be installed, but I think for some jobs like office workers, accountants, whoever basically managed to pull a home office during the pandemic, this could just mean literally four days of work.
unfortunately, not everyone can afford that. I personally can´t imagine this at schools (apart from maybe universities) that could do this, and the reason is exactly as you have stated. where would children of people who cannot afford to work only 4 days go? especially the younger ones? would they just be left to take care of themselves freely? or would they just open "voluntary classes on Fridays"?

like I´m not against that idea but I think it would have to be planned very very very well.

I do like the British system though. the early childcare here is just non-sufficent. sure, officially kindergarten CAN start at 2 years old, but most kindergartens are so full, your child will be very lucky to get accepted at 3 years old (which used to be an official age for entrance), only the last year of pre-school (6 years old) is for free and mandatory. there are no after-school programmes at all unless you pay for some dance classes etc. which usually last for an hour and you have to take your kid there.

I´d like to see anyone coming with it and pulling that off because I think Scandinavian countries were trying to go that way and they are more organised. so I´m keeping my fingers crossed for them .can´t imagine that here though.

 

[Mew]

I mean it depends on your concrete job. I can imagine how for many jobs that could be simply impossible and longer shifts would necessarily have to be installed, but I think for some jobs like office workers, accountants, whoever basically managed to pull a home office during the pandemic, this could just mean literally four days of work.
unfortunately, not everyone can afford that. I personally can´t imagine this at schools (apart from maybe universities) that could do this, and the reason is exactly as you have stated. where would children of people who cannot afford to work only 4 days go? especially the younger ones? would they just be left to take care of themselves freely? or would they just open "voluntary classes on Fridays"?

like I´m not against that idea but I think it would have to be planned very very very well.

I do like the British system though. the early childcare here is just non-sufficent. sure, officially kindergarten CAN start at 2 years old, but most kindergartens are so full, your child will be very lucky to get accepted at 3 years old (which used to be an official age for entrance), only the last year of pre-school (6 years old) is for free and mandatory. there are no after-school programmes at all unless you pay for some dance classes etc. which usually last for an hour and you have to take your kid there.

I´d like to see anyone coming with it and pulling that off because I think Scandinavian countries were trying to go that way and they are more organised. so I´m keeping my fingers crossed for them .can´t imagine that here though.

Yeah definitely, I think it works better in younger childcare for 4 day work week cause it alternates, so the nurseries still run 5 days a week, but the staff will have their day off at different times, so one would do a Tuesday to Friday have Monday off, another would do Friday, Mon, tue and Wed, have Thursday off. It tends to go like that.
But I don't think having a general 4 day work week (everyone off on the same day) works at all..especially living in an expensive city.
We start madantory school at 4 going on 5. Before 2 year old you have to pay, alot of nurseries start from 6 month. But its free for 2 to 4 year olds but you don't have to go if parent doesn't want to but it helps transition children better to start school at 4/5.

It's definitely much better than it use to be when I was a kid, hence I never went to nursery or anything I just started mainstream schooling at 4... It was a struggle tbh.

 

[eclipsoul]

The parents in my nursery school would kill us if they have to take care of their child one day more than necessary lol

that's really sad actually some people seriously need to ask themselves if they want to be a parent or just have children