News Hyunjoos lawyers refute DSPs response (1 Viewer)

[Abeamus]

On June 24, Hyunjoo’s legal representatives released their own statement countering DSP Media’s denial of the details surrounding the police’s decision. They stated, “We ask [DSP Media] refrain from spreading uncertain information in order to sow misunderstanding among the public. The police clearly stated their opinion on whether what Lee Hyunjoo’s brother wrote was false or not.”

In their statement, the lawyers also revealed sections of the police’s written report on their decision. The two sections that were revealed deal with the two aspects of defamation: whether there was malicious intent and whether the information was known to be false.

In the “whether the information was known to be false” section, it is written, “As the younger brother of former APRIL member Lee Hyunjoo, it is true that the accused had heard directly from her about the incidents described. Regarding the APRIL bullying issue, it is true that Lee Hyunjoo was suffering because of bullying within the group and that there really were incidents like the tumbler incident and the shoe incident during her time in APRIL.”

The report continued, “As the accuser has also acknowledged that these incidents existed, we have determined that what the accused wrote does not differ much from what really happened during Lee Hyunjoo’s time in APRIL. Therefore, we cannot say that this is a case of spreading false information.”

In the “malicious intent” section, the police wrote that they could not say that this was a case of harboring malicious intent because the accused had written about bullying allegations that had already surfaced among the public prior to his post, he had not added any new information or described the incidents in inappropriate detail, and the APRIL issue was already one of public concern.

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[RandAlThor]

lawyers .....

reframing statement's

lol

 

[Abeamus]

lawyers .....

reframing statement's

lol

Yeah I am not sure what they're getting at here since as far as I can tell DSP didn't dispute the police saying that the tumbler or shoe incidents happened as their side has mentioned it happening multiple times and just that it didn't confirm that they were bullying incidents exactly.

 

[Ahsoka]

This is so drawn out

 

[RandAlThor]

Yeah I am not sure what they're getting at here since as far as I can tell DSP didn't dispute the police saying that the tumbler or shoe incidents happened as their side has mentioned it happening multiple times and just that it didn't confirm that they were bullying incidents exactly.

yep were they just mistakes or were the members acting with evil intent.
I have followed many groups and stuff moves. kids are wearing/ using moving stuff all the time.

it feels like not only was she never there, she is that awful roommate who puts tags on every little thing.

 

[yeji]

this is getting ridiculous

 

[VillageIdiot]

I'll be the devil's advocate here even though I personally side with Hyunjoo.

April has been caught lying pretty much every time they've said something but there are some pretty damning things Hyunjoo/her side threw out that were just never mentioned again. She said she and her family were receiving hateful, threatening texts from April and their family members. Why are we going around in circles over a tumbler and pair of shoes (something both sides confirmed months ago) and not that?

I think anyone would agree that's a clear and clean cut example of bullying and yet they never said anything about it again

 

[Abeamus]

I'll be the devil's advocate here even though I personally side with Hyunjoo.

April has been caught lying pretty much every time they've said something but there are some pretty damning things Hyunjoo/her side threw out that were just never mentioned again. She said she and her family were receiving hateful, threatening texts from April and their family members. Why are we going around in circles over a tumbler and pair of shoes (something both sides confirmed months ago) and not that?

I think anyone would agree that's a clear and clean cut example of bullying and yet they never said anything about it again

Aprils side has been less than stellar but it does still raise questions about the situation like Hyunjoos side has the bullying went on from pre-debut and drove her to the point of attempting suicide but why was there the letter Chaewon claims Hyunjoo gave her, the video of them celebrating Hyunjoos birthday and the group photos together. Unless I am missing something and all that stuff which they put forward is fake I find it confusing why those would exist if the perspective on the group is that they never got along and made Hyunjoos life miserable.

At the same time though I don't feel that Aprils side has explained certain things either like the diary entry of Naeuns clearly showed there was animosity between the group and Hyunjoo but they focus on her inability to commit to the group as much as they would and DSPs complacency in the situation while Chaewon said she and Hyunjoo were like best friends and another member said is it wrong that they didn't get along with everyone.

There's been so much information put out there that I honestly forget she even said about her family being harassed by Aprils families and the more I think about the situation the more I realise just how much information seems to have been thrown out there which isn't likely to be picked up on again and how many questions it'll leave with this situation that just won't be answered beyonds peoples own speculation.

 

[VillageIdiot]

Aprils side has been less than stellar but it does still raise questions about the situation like Hyunjoos side has the bullying went on from pre-debut and drove her to the point of attempting suicide but why was there the letter Chaewon claims Hyunjoo gave her, the video of them celebrating Hyunjoos birthday and the group photos together. Unless I am missing something and all that stuff which they put forward is fake I find it confusing why those would exist if the perspective on the group is that they never got along and made Hyunjoos life miserable.

At the same time though I don't feel that Aprils side has explained certain things either like the diary entry of Naeuns clearly showed there was animosity between the group and Hyunjoo but they focus on her inability to commit to the group as much as they would and DSPs complacency in the situation while Chaewon said she and Hyunjoo were like best friends and another member said is it wrong that they didn't get along with everyone.

There's been so much information put out there that I honestly forget she even said about her family being harassed by Aprils families and the more I think about the situation the more I realise just how much information seems to have been thrown out there which isn't likely to be picked up on again and how many questions it'll leave with this situation that just won't be answered beyonds peoples own speculation.

A lot of the group photos April posted got exposed for being a public events or during activities where they were being filmed. I didn't really put a lot weight into the birthday thing because that just seemed like a normal thing. Even if she was beefing with them that badly to where they wanted to just skip her birthday, a manager could have just as easily done that for her. Either Hyunjoo is letting a the bad moments negate the good or April is letting the good override the bad.

What I don't understand is how, if she's as sickly and unwilling to work as they're trying to lead in, why is it just not reflecting in the material we have? I've seen and stanned my fair share of idols that are lazy, sick, unprepared or having periods where they want to quit. You can spot it miles away. She did way too well for someone sickly that barely shows up for practice and it makes no sense for her to join Uni.t (and not piss of those members either since they all supported her)

I think both sides are deadset on destroying each other and victimizing themselves because they have too much too lose. Any chance at truth or acknowledgement of wrongdoing is shot at this point

One thing that's just been abundantly clear at this point is that DSP is a toxic hellhole of a company. Not only was this not nipped in the bud like it should have been but it looks like it was encouraged. And if we go by Naeun's diary entries, it's not far fetched to assume they were mistreated well. Kids fight but adults jumping in and saying "it's alright to gang up on her because she's sickly" can only empower them to be worse.

 

[Abeamus]

A lot of the group photos April posted got exposed for being a public events or during activities where they were being filmed. I didn't really put a lot weight into the birthday thing because that just seemed like a normal thing. Even if she was beefing with them that badly to where they wanted to just skip her birthday, a manager could have just as easily done that for her. Either Hyunjoo is letting a the bad moments negate the good or April is letting the good override the bad.

What I don't understand is how, if she's as sickly and unwilling to work as they're trying to lead in, why is it just not reflecting in the material we have? I've seen and stanned my fair share of idols that are lazy, sick, unprepared or having periods where they want to quit. You can spot it miles away. She did way too well for someone sickly that barely shows up for practice and it makes no sense for her to join Uni.t (and not piss of those members either since they all supported her)

I think both sides are deadset on destroying each other and victimizing themselves because they have too much too lose. Any chance at truth or acknowledgement of wrongdoing is shot at this point

One thing that's just been abundantly clear at this point is that DSP is a toxic hellhole of a company. Not only was this not nipped in the bud like it should have been but it looks like it was encouraged. And if we go by Naeun's diary entries, it's not far fetched to assume they were mistreated well. Kids fight but adults jumping in and saying "it's alright to gang up on her because she's sickly" can only empower them to be worse.

The other thing to keep in mind is not just the existence of those things though but also that April still has them despite them saying they haven't seen her in 5 years and the tone of Naeuns diary entry being less than friendly so what purpose did they have keeping such things like they're treasured possessions? It's not something you'd expect to be kept with the circumstances of what they've said.

Well her not practising with the group doesn't necessarily mean she didn't practice at all as there is the possibility that she could have practised in her own time if it would have been more at her pace as the sick thing does seem to be true considering on The Unit she mentions leaving April and says it's unfair that she had to stop her dream because she was sick.

It does appear that it's coming down to being more about winning by any means necessary than fully understanding the entire scenario as it seems bigger than what has been let out thus far.

There was one of the members in that interview thing that mentioned having to go to therapy as well so if true DSP definitely was negligent in the handling of the members and hopefully gets investigated fully as Chaewon, Somin, Naeun, Yena and Jinsol could all retire from the industry but that would do nothing if DSP just continues with another group after showing that they're still as slimy as ever.

 

[VillageIdiot]

The other thing to keep in mind is not just the existence of those things though but also that April still has them despite them saying they haven't seen her in 5 years and the tone of Naeuns diary entry being less than friendly so what purpose did they have keeping such things like they're treasured possessions? It's not something you'd expect to be kept with the circumstances of what they've said.

Well her not practising with the group doesn't necessarily mean she didn't practice at all as there is the possibility that she could have practised in her own time if it would have been more at her pace as the sick thing does seem to be true considering on The Unit she mentions leaving April and says it's unfair that she had to stop her dream because she was sick.

It does appear that it's coming down to being more about winning by any means necessary than fully understanding the entire scenario as it seems bigger than what has been let out thus far.

There was one of the members in that interview thing that mentioned having to go to therapy as well so if true DSP definitely was negligent in the handling of the members and hopefully gets investigated fully as Chaewon, Somin, Naeun, Yena and Jinsol could all retire from the industry but that would do nothing if DSP just continues with another group after showing that they're still as slimy as ever.

Maybe the pictures got backed up or they just didn't feel like going back and deleting it. Maybe it's the hoarder in me but I'd have to hate someone with a deep passion to go behind and delete all my old pictures.

I just really wish they'd stop threatening each other with proof instead of doing this tired He Said, She said that can easily be spun the opposite way

April: she kept missing rehearsals and was allowed to stay home
Hyunjoo: the company kept telling me to go home and take breaks because the bullying was so bad.

April: we were hard on her because she kept getting sick and disrupting the group.
Hyunjoo: I was being bullied so badly that it made me sick and interfered

Hyunjoo: they bullied me
April: she bullied us

And so on and so on.


I wonder if Hyunjoo is being vague and quiet now that they're being sued and she knows she's in a bad position. Even if the criminal charges got dropped, there's still the civil suits against her, her brother and her friends. Makes since why DSP suddenly started laying on the mediaplay and nobody's defending her anymore

 

[Abeamus]

Maybe the pictures got backed up or they just didn't feel like going back and deleting it. Maybe it's the hoarder in me but I'd have to hate someone with a deep passion to go behind and delete all my old pictures.

I just really wish they'd stop threatening each other with proof instead of doing this tired He Said, She said that can easily be spun the opposite way

April: she kept missing rehearsals and was allowed to stay home
Hyunjoo: the company kept telling me to go home and take breaks because the bullying was so bad.

April: we were hard on her because she kept getting sick and disrupting the group.
Hyunjoo: I was being bullied so badly that it made me sick and interfered

Hyunjoo: they bullied me
April: she bullied us

And so on and so on.


I wonder if Hyunjoo is being vague and quiet now that they're being sued and she knows she's in a bad position. Even if the criminal charges got dropped, there's still the civil suits against her, her brother and her friends. Makes since why DSP suddenly started laying on the mediaplay and nobody's defending her anymore

From Hyunjoos side of the story it sounds like they never got along and even with Aprils you have the diary talking about wanting someone to disappear and those sound pretty hateful situations to keep the photos, video and the letter.

April saying they were scared of Hyunjoo was the most random thing in this situation so far, it didn't go along with the narrative they had before so seemed like something thrown in there trying to save face.

The he said she said nature that this situation has turned into is just toxic as for the public to know the truth we rely on one of them being as committed as possible to telling the truth but it doesn't seem like either are that committed for the time being.

Hyunjoo hasn't really said much throughout herself in regards to details of the situation but she doesn't really need to either as April keep getting details wrong and incriminating themselves without her doing anything.

The media blitz DSP are doing seemed to start in conjunction to the brother having the charges dropped so that might have been a defensive move to try and overwhelm people before the police statement came out.