Is there any hope left for red velvet? (1 Viewer)

[ripiasuju]

Or are they just fx 2.0.. that group that is always in the mix of top tier but never actually top tier.

I personally think that they have about 1 year left. If they dont have either.

An international hit, at the same or higher level as bad boy or a hit as big as red flavor in Korea, if they have none then they will never revive and be swallowed by all these new gg's. They will always have irene as their visual but ultimately the group will be kinda doomed without her like missa and Suzy.

Let's hope for a RV hit soon!

What do you think?

 

[VillageIdiot]

I foresee more tours and solo work this year.
SM never completely gives up on a group, they just stop trying (which they kinda have)
Red Velvet stopping completely depends on the members and the fandom, that's why f(x) isn't around anymore.
Their physicals are pretty good, the fandom is solid (SM's main priority), the tour is successful and the members have avoid a crippling disaster.
SM has no reason to completely scrap them, even if NGG is rolling out at some point.
We'll see if SM still cares about the GP or is forcing RV completely onto their fandom in May

 

[ripiasuju]

I foresee more tours and solo work this year.
SM never completely gives up on a group, they just stop trying (which they kinda have)
Red Velvet stopping completely depends on the members and the fandom, that's why f(x) isn't around anymore.
Their physicals are pretty good, the fandom is solid (SM's main priority), the tour is successful and the members have avoid a crippling disaster.
SM has no reason to completely scrap them, even if NGG is rolling out at some point.
We'll see if SM still cares about the GP or is forcing RV completely onto their fandom in May

SM definitely won't give up on RV and to be fair it was actually Sulli and Victoria who gave up on fx. Not sm.

Sm are still trying with trax and they were a group from 2006 who never had any success. SM are quite stubborn with their artist.

I just fear for their popularity and success is all.

 

[VillageIdiot]

SM definitely won't give up on RV and to be fair it was actually Sulli and Victoria who gave up on fx. Not sm.

Sm are still trying with trax and they were a group from 2006 who never had any success. SM are quite stubborn with their artist.

I just fear for their popularity and success is all.

Trax is still a thing? Yikes
Popularity wise, Red Velvet is done and I think SM is done trying to make them more popular

 

[ripiasuju]

Popularity wise, Red Velvet is done

Lmaoo not just yet.

 

[Riasama]

Queens are still on top I don't know what yall r worried about

 

[Darkseid]

It does feel like they have peaked or should I say plateaued. It's not a bad place to be at where they are rn, but they really need another hit. Power Up got PAKs but fell off the charts pretty quick, I'd say it was more on the back of RF/Bad Boy hype. And RBB didn't do well.

Come back with another hit and they should be solid again, but I don't see the fandom or popularity growing by that much again.

 

[RandAlThor]

I am not thrilled they are coming back in May, the last time a sm gg came back in may was fx ES.
i think Shinee was working that 3 part album in may last yearor so
Spring seem to be a solo time for sm.
It may work out if the song is a summer song and its late may. Many groups have already come back.
But that would be crazy as sm has miss-timed RV cbs for the entire life span of the group.

They more than any other sm gg depend on connecting with non fans.

 

[Crackhead]

I'm 50/50 on this one.
They have strong fanbase from what I've seen and they're all extremely talented too might I add.

I think this all depends on SM right now, he seems to be focusing mostly on NCT right now. But I feel like that might change. If SM doesn't promote Red Velvet and if he doesn't give a hit song like for example Likey was? Not sure if it was Likey but anyways it would need to be friendly song really. But I feel like at the same time he is experimenting which can be bad and good, good bc he might hit the right spot and might continue with it, while bad he keeps experimenting and doesn't see improvement.
I feel like he should continue with the Red Flavour or Bad Boy vibe, imo Red Flavour kinda songs might just be the best for them.
Public might love it and would stream, not hardcore like fanbase but would still give a listen which might hit big.

Also his ass needs to get back f(x) but I guess I see why he's doing what he's doing.

 

[Administrator2]

The decline is definitely visible and RBB didn't help.

 

[feepit]

Trax is still a thing? Yikes

They're rebranded as TraxX and are now a Rock-EDM group with a new member (DJ Ginjo who looks like Minho if you squint).

 

[Walnutt]

I feel like RV is perfectly fine, seeing as how their floppiest flop RBB sold almost 100k

 

[amourpinks]

I think theyre doing okay, theyre good at their number three spot. if they get another hit then i feel like it would probably boost their popularity, but if they dont then i think that theyre gonna just stay the same

 

[aryaprasetya]

Just chill and wait, they will release another RF or Badboy and all people will hype it up again. At this point SM really trying to expand their solo activity, especially after we see how active SM promote wendy and yeri, the least promoted RV member

 

[Darkyoda47]

They could've been S tier, like TWICE and BP if the follow up to RF wasn't PAB. They got their MEGA hit but SM didn't capitalize on that leaving RF itself to seem like it wasn't as big of hit too.

 

[lexus]

I've never considered Red Velvet to be f(x) 2.0. I love the members and their (older) discography. However, since Peek-A-Boo era I haven't liked their music as much. I love Bad Boy and a few bsides since then, but I'm not really obsessed with their music like I used to be. I'm on the verge of unstanning if their next comeback isn't something that I like. I'll still love the members though. I highly doubt that they only have a year left. They have done fairly well with their tour, got a PAK with Power Up, and still have a pretty good fanbase. I don't see them going anywhere. I think they just need to have another hit like Power Up or Bad Boy to get back up to where they were.

 

[RandAlThor]

I feel like RV is perfectly fine, seeing as how their floppiest flop RBB sold almost 100k

The velvet is a bigger digital flop (and actually the red aka dumb dumb is the next worse selling)
But RBB is far and away the worst digital title song with an album ever by red velvet. OOTN crushes it close to 2-1

Physicals are a trailing indicator kinda a reflection of previous work much of the time especially early sales. RBB is most ly all early sales
where as most of teh older RV albums have serious continuing sales.

 

[Walnutt]

The velvet is a bigger digital flop (and actually the red aka dumb dumb is the next worse selling)
But RBB is far and away the worst digital title song with an album ever by red velvet. OOTN crushes it close to 2-1

Physicals are a trailing indicator kinda a reflection of previous work much of the time especially early sales. RBB is most ly all early sales
where as most of teh older RV albums have serious continuing sales.

I disagree with physicals being an outdated indicator. JYP said it best when he talked about how physical sales are his number one criteria to understand how big a group's true popularity is. Actual fans are the ones who buy the physical copies; the same fans tend to buy merch and will buy tickets to concerts so physicals tend to show the trajectory of other money-making areas for the group.

 

[RandAlThor]

I disagree with physicals being an outdated indicator. JYP said it best when he talked about how physical sales are his number one criteria to understand how big a group's true popularity is. Actual fans are the ones who buy the physical copies; the same fans tend to buy merch and will buy tickets to concerts so physicals tend to show the trajectory of other money-making areas for the group.

not outdated , but trailing. You can have an album that sucks and with the culture of preorder/ early buy/fan sign still have super big numbers. But the effects of that will be in following albums.
RV has about a third to a quarter of say twices numbers maybe a tad higher because for some reason Reveluvs are much more likely to buy physical/ or dl that to stream on any platform.

 

[Walnutt]

not outdated , but trailing. You can have an album that sucks and with the culture of preorder/ early buy/fan sign still have super big numbers. But the effects of that will be in following albums.
RV has about a third to a quarter of say twices numbers maybe a tad higher because for some reason Reveluvs are much more likely to buy physical/ or dl that to stream on any platform.

Idk, I feel like I always see people calling the end of RV despite the fact that they're doing just fine. People will always say a group is starting to fail; hell, people are saying that about BP because they're not getting an allkill in Korea (because Bol4 monsters are taking over) despite the fact that they're leading 33 country's music charts including the US.

Everything's fine with RV