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Belgian-Turkish former contestant Hadise signedI’d be curious to know who the 70 are
If Russia can get banned for political reasons, Israel should be banned as well.
Yeah and it was never non-political at the first place.interesting
from their website
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What is the mission of the Contest?
The Eurovision Song Contest is a long running non-political, entertainment event which is designed to bring audiences and countries together.
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I guess the original aim of the contest was cooperation and mutual benefit and non-political...Yeah and it was never non-political at the first place.
I dont agree with you. eurovision was implemented after ww2 to celebrate peace and unite europe.That's the reason why I don't watch that show anymore. It should be about music, not about politics. Those artists from Russia and Israel didn't start a war. Even if they would promote it in their songs (I doubt that it would happen), people can vote for someone else. Bans of musicians (and athletes in Olympic Games) don't end wars.
They banned Russia. So that's the total end of this line of reasoning.interesting
from their website
"
What is the mission of the Contest?
The Eurovision Song Contest is a long running non-political, entertainment event which is designed to bring audiences and countries together.
"
The pariah status given to South Africa helped end apartheid.That's the reason why I don't watch that show anymore. It should be about music, not about politics. Those artists from Russia and Israel didn't start a war. Even if they would promote it in their songs (I doubt that it would happen), people can vote for someone else. Bans of musicians (and athletes in Olympic Games) don't end wars.
interesting choice - does that mean in your pov every "celebrity" of person of fame has to then distance themselves from their native countries when their native countries do something badI dont agree with you. eurovision was implemented after ww2 to celebrate peace and unite europe.
to let countries perform that start wars in europe is basically against the meaning of the competition, so
I`m in favor for israel and russia being banned from esc. in the end those singers perform to represent their country.
for some countries its also about national pride to perform, so I cant agree that the singers are not at fault.
the singers have the choice to not agree with the war and not perform to set a sign, but they dont.
by now israel is basically using their ww2 victim status against europe.
not necessarily. I was talking about esc here because its an official competition with a certain meaning.interesting choice - does that mean in your pov every "celebrity" of person of fame has to then distance themselves from their native countries when their native countries do something bad
what I mean by "celebrities or person of fame" could include actors/actresses/notable scientists/authors/singers/athletes etc etc?
so is your grip only with Eurovision per se and not other competitions or other events - like olympics or noble prizes or tournaments or other sporting events or movie festivals etc etcnot necessarily. I was talking about esc here because its an official competition with a certain meaning.
even if the artist is not fine with what happens, they automaticly signal with their entry that they are. thats what I mean.
usually artists stay quiet about such matters.
competitions that represent a certain meaningso is your grip only with Eurovision per se and not other competitions or other events - like olympics or noble prizes or tournaments or other sporting events or movie festivals etc etc
It's Eurovision, you are directly representing your country. Like that's the point. It's up to the singer's choice to choose how to represent their country. Some incorporate traditional elements into their songs (Greece 2024, Latvia 2025), some show it modernly (Sweden's pop machine), and Israel last year entered a song about October the 7th. That was changed obviously, the EBU didn't allow it. But the fact is you can't represent an ethnostate without being complicit.interesting choice - does that mean in your pov every "celebrity" of person of fame has to then distance themselves from their native countries when their native countries do something bad
what I mean by "celebrities or person of fame" could include actors/actresses/notable scientists/authors/singers/athletes etc etc?
right so it's not just eurovision then?competitions that represent a certain meaning