Seperation of religion and state is bullshit. (1 Viewer)

[tai]

Exhibit A : Christmas.

Literally the only example you need. ​

 

[Day]

It seriously is a joke

 

[Chaeee]

My country is still Catholic focused, though it’s a lot less toned down then it once was, so at least our national holidays make some sort of sense. But I presume you’re talking about America in the OP. Is there not an “official” religion there?

 

[tai]

My country is still Catholic focused, though it’s a lot less toned down then it once was, so at least our national holidays make some sort of sense. But I presume you’re talking about America in the OP. Is there not an “official” religion there?

Yes, In america we're supposed to have a seperation of church in state which is complete and utter bullshit. "In god we trust" on our money. "Liberty and justice under god" in our anthem, not to mention a shitload of christian holidays.. aka the only holidays recongnized...

 

[The_LastRomeo]

I'm a little confused, could you dumb down what you are trying to say?

 

[GH0ST]

My country is still Catholic focused, though it’s a lot less toned down then it once was, so at least our national holidays make some sort of sense. But I presume you’re talking about America in the OP. Is there not an “official” religion there?

There isn’t really an “official” religion. It’s more of a melting pot. But the majority is Christianity (Protestant, Catholicism, Mormon, etc) followed by Irreligion, Judaism, and Islam. (With Hinduism and Buddhism next.)

Here x is a bit easier to understand lol.

 

[hxney_jun]

definitely. its a little odd to me about how its all about seperation of the two, but then there's so many traditional christian things we're still actively implementing and encouraging.

 

[Kamistar]

It exists on theory but the reality is the opposite

 

[SeulPika]

The worst period in the history of Shintoism was when the Imperial Japanese government twisted and bastardised Shinto beliefs and practices to fit their warmongering ambitions.....

 

[cocomelon]

my country is supposedly secular so we dont fuck with gods 💀

PS: “technically” our state doesnt follow any religion. and officially too theres no mentions of god like that

 

[RandAlThor]

The separation concept is from a letter from Thomas Jefferson to a church while he was running for president against John Adams. Mr Jefferson was agnostic and mr Adams campaign was saying he was going to interfere in local churches.

the point of the letter is to assure the people that the federal government has zero (ie a wall) power to interfere in the church.

That the establishment clause is specifically to stop the federal government from picking a specific sect (ie Baptists , Anglican ect.) See England and the church of England.

the flow of the concept is one way. The Federal government cant force someone to be Methodist for example to live in the USA.
They also cannot stop one from following a religion Except under some very very narrow parameter's.
Generic God Creator concepts are preexisting and over arching as a back drop of the society.

He wrote, “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

Like most of history it is bastardized by the media or anyone with a gripe.

Note this is only the federal government.
Some states had a state religion long into the early history of the nation, most went away from it as it hindered movement. Ironically they were in the northeast.

Thomas Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists

Thomas Jefferson wrote to a letter to a Baptist Church from Danbury, Connecticut, in which he explained his beliefs about federalism and the Establishment Clause.

billofrightsinstitute.org

 

[alo]

my country is supposedly secular so we dont fuck with gods 💀

PS: “technically” our state doesnt follow any religion. and officially too theres no mentions of god like that

emphasis on "supposedly" and "technically" imo tbh.

 

[cocomelon]

emphasis on "supposedly" and "technically" imo tbh.

yeaa.

imagine tho if it was never there, india wouldnt have had 99% of its riots

PS: india’s only at its 75th tho so hopefully things change

 

[alo]

yeaa.

imagine tho if it was never there, india wouldnt have had 99% of its riots

PS: india’s only at its 75th tho so hopefully things change

exactly. and i do hope things change. we've got a long long way to go.

 

[SnowWhite]

I don't mind it the way America and west Europe do. At least their people don't feel tortured in pure dictatorship. Even if u don't believe in religion, Christmas is a delightful time.

 

[doll]

OHMYGOODNESS
yes
in my home ec class, we arent allowed to say god because she gets offended
but she is blatantly Islamaphobic ...?
me and aylin get into an argument with her every other day because im a practicing muslim and she just HASSS to ask me SOMETHING about it
and we have reported her, yea but they wont do anything.
i am aware i live in the middle of el country, and the nearest metro city is 2 hours away but cmon bru she should know better

 

[seoriverse]

we don't have "states" where i live but the debate is just as present. since religion and religious part are a huge part of our history and how our place was built then it's hard to seperate completly. even our language today is still heavely affected by religious influence. however, i am very disappointed whenever i see our politicians try to pass islamophobic laws under the guise that it is to "separate religion from the governement".