Shouldn´t EXO Kris´s card be removed? (2 Viewers)

[brekker]

innocent until proven guilty, but Woojin wasn´t given that courtesy and he was removed while his actions were not yet proven to be true. now he has been cleared (and his card is not back, but that´s probably), soooo why Kris?

 

[Ahsoka]

We need to hold a vote first, I'll make sure we do it soon.

 

[OnlyCalB]

Good question.

We can certainly discuss the Kris card.

And if Woojin's case was indeed cleared I guess we can hold another vote for his inclusion once again.

 

[RandAlThor]

But i need a relpace ment if we kill him.

 

[Ahsoka]

But i need a relpace ment if we kill him.

If we get rid of him everyone who has him will receive a random card.

 

[brekker]

in that case, can I also get a better card like

But i need a relpace ment if we kill him.

like in your heart or ... ? :D

 

[RandAlThor]

in that case, can I also get a better card like


like in your heart or ... ? :D

just the card. its all about place holders :)

 

[Abeamus]

I'd say give it time as the case is ongoing but if it's possible to at least take him out of the generator as that's probably for the best right now and at least then there won't be any more given and people could decide if they want to re-roll it

 

[brekker]

I'd say give it time as the case is ongoing but if it's possible to at least take him out of the generator as that's probably for the best right now and at least then there won't be any more given and people could decide if they want to re-roll it

that wouldn´t be fair though

 

[Abeamus]

that wouldn´t be fair though

I'd say it's the fairest way to go about things, if people are just given a random card it'd be out of any batch while if they just use him in a re-roll themselves they have more control and it'd give the time to see the case through and not make a judgment that proves to be wrong like Woojins and if he ends up being taken out and people still have the card then they can replace the remaining ones with random cards.

 

[brekker]

I'd say it's the fairest way to go about things, if people are just given a random card it'd be out of any batch while if they just use him in a re-roll themselves they have more control and it'd give the time to see the case through and not make a judgment that proves to be wrong like Woojins and if he ends up being taken out and people still have the card then they can replace the remaining ones with random cards.

I mean it wouldn´t be fair towards Woojin, would it? he was taken out without anyone waiting for anything, yet Kris not? it´s about a principle. why is one person given that waiting time and the other isn´t? but then it´s of course not my decision. I don´t mind not having his card be it replaced by anyone else (I´d probably get a GG card anyway) or just not having him at all. I understand I can reroll him, but I just fair the treatment is unfair towards the other artist. but there will be a vote, so I´m chill. if he is voted to stay I´ll just reroll him.

 

[Abeamus]

I mean it wouldn´t be fair towards Woojin, would it? he was taken out without anyone waiting for anything, yet Kris not? it´s about a principle. why is one person given that waiting time and the other isn´t? but then it´s of course not my decision. I don´t mind not having his card be it replaced by anyone else (I´d probably get a GG card anyway) or just not having him at all. I understand I can reroll him, but I just fair the treatment is unfair towards the other artist. but there will be a vote, so I´m chill. if he is voted to stay I´ll just reroll him.

I understand that part but wouldn't it be better to learn from the mistake of taking Woojin out that fast than to keep doing it and end up with another position where the idol turns out to be innocent since for me it's more important to finding a better approach with these situations as Woojin was handled poorly and since he is innocent then should have been put back as a card already although Woojin Solo cards could work as well since Stays aren't that kind to him.

 

[brekker]

I understand that part but wouldn't it be better to learn from the mistake of taking Woojin out that fast than to keep doing it and end up with another position where the idol turns out to be innocent since for me it's more important to finding a better approach with these situations as Woojin was handled poorly and since he is innocent then should have been put back as a card already although Woojin Solo cards could work as well since Stays aren't that kind to him.

true. that would be a generous and most fair approach.
I also like your solo cards idea, agh that would be awesome!

 

[blueberries]

The whole thing is fresh so i'd say that it's best to wait a bit. Sometimes these things can turn out opposite, the case with Goo Hara started with her being painted as abuser. Ofc everyone can get rid the card themselves or so i would if i was uneasy with card i had, just put it for reroll.

 

[brekker]

The whole thing is fresh so i'd say that it's best to wait a bit. Sometimes these things can turn out opposite, the case with Goo Hara started with her being painted as abuser. Ofc everyone can get rid the card themselves or so i would if i was uneasy with card i had, just put it for reroll.

hmmm it is really not that fresh, there have been rumours about his behaviour for a while, but there were more or less rumours nothing else just now things have been piling up. but yeah you are right. I´d probably do that, but unfortunately reroll for me means "rerolling cards I don´t want just to get them the next day :D" so that is why I have given up rerolling all together. I keep collecting the cards I don´t want because then ONE DAY I will finally start getting the ones I do want :D

 

[blueberries]

hmmm it is really not that fresh, there have been rumours about his behaviour for a while, but there were more or less rumours nothing else just now things have been piling up. but yeah you are right. I´d probably do that, but unfortunately reroll for me means "rerolling cards I don´t want just to get them the next day :D" so that is why I have given up rerolling all together. I keep collecting the cards I don´t want because then ONE DAY I will finally start getting the ones I do want :D

I'm still not that point so I guess it's easier for me to get rid of cards I dont want

 

[brekker]

I'm still not that point so I guess it's easier for me to get rid of cards I dont want

lucky ♥

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

I'd say give it time as the case is ongoing but if it's possible to at least take him out of the generator as that's probably for the best right now and at least then there won't be any more given and people could decide if they want to re-roll it

I'd say it's the fairest way to go about things, if people are just given a random card it'd be out of any batch while if they just use him in a re-roll themselves they have more control and it'd give the time to see the case through and not make a judgment that proves to be wrong like Woojins and if he ends up being taken out and people still have the card then they can replace the remaining ones with random cards.

I think id agree with this approach, as even tho there's no APRIL cards, but there's GIDLE Soojin, Stray Kids Hyunjin n iv seen no rumblings abt a pre-emptive banishment/vote on whether to keep/kick these cards. I think Hyunjin has been cleared so a premature vote would hv been a double-down on another Stray Kids member after Woojin. Also these are virtual cards, they dont affect the person except indirectly. We are human here, unless one of us is an AI/robot so a human mistake in handling ONE card out of hundreds is understandable, i hope.(in the recent threads abt woojin tat i read, not one user wrote how unfair tat KS users were in voting his card to be deleted, making me believe his card is not as important as his career, reputation n legal status. If im wrong, users who want Woojin's card bk/as a solo are free to vote/ask for a recall).

As for Kris, as i said i tend to agree with Abe's idea, but im not the deciding factor. I can abstain from voting on both cards if i think tats warranted,since tat might be more reflective of wider opinions on both cards.