so why does the itzy girl and jyp get a pass (1 Viewer)

[RandAlThor]

unlike the april girls and dsp?

있지(ITZY) 리아, 학폭글 동창생 명예훼손 혐의 무혐의

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both appear to have been trying to sue 'victims' and got rejected.

april is mud while itzy is cruising.

I find much of this bullying stuff sketchy as it is, and the way k nets selectively ruin groups does not make me any more sympathetic.

 

[VillageIdiot]

Management.

JYPE put out one statement and kept quiet for months.
Pledis put out one statement.
Same with Starship.
SM kept super quiet about Taeyong for years. The Jessica issue too, only one statement and relied on the media to bury her

Cube and DSP made this as loud and messy as possible.
The more statements made in the media, the more the issue is gonna get in front of people's eyes. And the optics are just terrible in April's case

 

[RandAlThor]

Management.

JYPE put out one statement and kept quiet for months.
Pledis put out one statement.
Same with Starship.
SM kept super quiet about Taeyong for years. The Jessica issue too, only one statement and relied on the media to bury her

Cube and DSP made this as loud and messy as possible.
The more statements made in the media, the more the issue is gonna get in front of people's eyes. And the optics are just terrible in April's case

i think that has more to do with the power of the agency to blow off the complaints than that.

DSP knows April is on the edge, and cube has not really ever been super strong or good at spin.

heck it took many many things and years for FNC to loose control of the aoa narrative.

i think the nets are just happy to destroy and the little fish are easy to kill.

 

[VillageIdiot]

i think that has more to do with the power of the agency to blow off the complaints than that.

DSP knows April is on the edge, and cube has not really ever been super strong or good at spin.

heck it took many many things and years for FNC to loose control of the aoa narrative.

i think the nets are just happy to destroy and the little fish are easy to kill.

True, being tiny really doesn't help them either

I think their "friends" and fellow staff members pushed them headfirst into the hole Hyungjoo dug. You don't criticize a teenage girl for not working hard enough because she missed performances while she was involuntarily committed for a suicide attempt. That is a suicidal move anywhere, especially in a country with an epidemic in suicides in young people, bullying in schools and workplaces, and extreme overworking culture. Even if it turns out Hyungjoo made up everything she said, I can't understand how they'd think that's a winning argument. She doesn't even have to victimize herself, they already did it for her.

I'd have just thrown Kard Somin under the bus for it since people already think she bullies her own teammates

 

[jasque]

Cube doesnt have a history of even trying to protect

They just put in dungeon till they figure what to do, even if they need to do so for one year

 

[VillageIdiot]

Cube doesnt have a history of even trying to protect

They just put in dungeon till they figure what to do, even if they need to do so for one year

The first time they ever stand by any of their artists and they fucked it up

 

[VillageIdiot]

Welp


Twas nice knowing her ig

 

[RandAlThor]

True, being tiny really doesn't help them either

I think their "friends" and fellow staff members pushed them headfirst into the hole Hyungjoo dug. You don't criticize a teenage girl for not working hard enough because she missed performances while she was involuntarily committed for a suicide attempt. That is a suicidal move anywhere, especially in a country with an epidemic in suicides in young people, bullying in schools and workplaces, and extreme overworking culture. Even if it turns out Hyungjoo made up everything she said, I can't understand how they'd think that's a winning argument. She doesn't even have to victimize herself, they already did it for her.

I'd have just thrown Kard Somin under the bus for it since people already think she bullies her own teammates

see that is the part that is really weird. they had a ready made out.

i think even reading the letters what they are referencing is the pattern of misses practice shows ect. The company just Sucks at making the case.
more importantly is shows a pattern pf management failure. if she was a disruptive force from the start pull the trigger.
it does not help that since the baby kara girl dsp had a target on em, or at worse another pattern of jacking up young girls.

 

[RandAlThor]

Welp


Twas nice knowing her ig

and jyp kinda said they still want to move forward with the case.

Not that i have anything against the itzy kids i just think much of this is crazy.

there is very little any company can do baring superior audio visual evidence to back up these kids.

 

[blueberries]

I had no idea this was going with Itzy I guess it got buried under all the other bullying scandals. But JYP didn't get by so easy Stray Kids and Hyunjin got hit hard. Kinda weird how response to both JYP groups is that different though, Hyunjin got cut out from everything.

Anyways Aprils case is different cause its about members bullying member.

 

[VillageIdiot]

see that is the part that is really weird. they had a ready made out.

i think even reading the letters what they are referencing is the pattern of misses practice shows ect. The company just Sucks at making the case.
more importantly is shows a pattern pf management failure. if she was a disruptive force from the start pull the trigger.
it does not help that since the baby kara girl dsp had a target on em, or at worse another pattern of jacking up young girls.

The whole thing is weird because you can't really pin down a starting point. Hyunjoo saying it all started before debut and she never wanted to be in April to begin with. Her family saying she had pretty severe health issue too, plus the weird and petty tricks she accused them of pulling on her, which DSP couldn't outright deny so they made excuses for. April staff and the member saying it wasn't an issue until after she debuted. The whole time it doesn't look good on them because they keep glossing over everything she went through like she was faking or exaggerating it. An environment just has to be really toxic to have a kid wanting to end it

Kids fight and ostracize each other, that happens but why did the adults in the situation fail to mediate it and even egg it on? If Hyunjoo was that much of a problem and didnt want to work, why did they hang on to her. Even now she's still essentially being held hostage and they're sabotaging her career as punishment for speaking

 

[hAJIMAAAA]

#1 no, they're not getting a pass, have you seen netizenbuzz? naver comments are flooded with hate

#2 if it was about management and because they're big, then rv's irene, stray kids' hyunjin and g-idle's soojin would've gotten a pass and they didn't, either. April's case was handled messily and not even by the company as much until later but because the accusers kept releasing allegations + it's not school kids, it's members even after debut, and so on and so forth.

#3 however, even if netizens are cancelling her, unlike the handling of hyunjin and soojin's case, the police were directly involved in this case but people are quite literally misunderstanding the police's statement which explicitly declares that they are dropping the defamation charges because there is not enough evidence to claim that A made such accusations with the intention of slander, but it does not, however, mean that A's accusations are true (nor does it mean they aren't), just that they can't prove the accuser did it with "bad intentions", so to speak, which is what would make the case fit into defamation.

That is the investigation the police were carrying out: defamation charges against A.
There is no current legal investigation in regards to the bullying accusations against A because A never charged Lia with anything, legally, this case has nothing to do with her bullying accusations, only with JYP's attempt at legal prosecution against A.

 

[Darkseid]

The Lia case is weird, JYPE was pretty quick to outright deny those aims and proceed with legal action, unlike with Stray Kids and Hyunjin.

Also, in this case the defamation case being dropped by the police only says that there isn't enough evidence to prove accuser A made those claims maliciously, so the truth of the matter is still up in the air although Knetz seem to have turned against her.

 

[Abeamus]

Because people don't care about bullying scandals if they don't know the victims, in both Soojin and Aprils cases there was a known victim being Seo Shin Ae and Hyunjoo however these scandals that have someone that the public won't know they can't sympathise as easily with. You can especially see this when you compare ifans vs kfans when it comes to Soojins case as while ifans were more behind Soojin because they didn't know Seo Shin Ae however kfans turned against her because they did know her.