News Trump signs executive orders proclaiming there are only two biological sexes, halting diversity programs (1 Viewer)

[ani07]

at least he cant be president again after those 4 years....

 

[Magician]

it just gets confusing with genders
like we have
female, male, intersex, nonbinary, trigender, xenogender, aesthetigender, genderfluff, etc
it just seems easier to have a select few, no? it's only for documentations and such but in their day to day lives, they can still identify how they want, or am I just not getting it?

People are angry, because Trump is taking away the 'gender neutral' option

In 2022, the Biden administration allowed U.S. citizens to be able to select the gender-neutral "X" as a marker on their passports.

And there is no legitimate reason to do that

 

[athenaaa]

at least he cant be president again after those 4 years....

Unless he signs an executive order to abolish that rule

 

[ani07]

Unless he signs an executive order to abolish that rule

lets hope that wont be possible.

 

[athenaaa]

lets hope that wont be possible.

I hope so too

 

[DaisySkies]

People are angry, because Trump is taking away the 'gender neutral' option

I mean, it's a lot simpler on official documentation to only have two, no? on everything else, you can identify however you want ;-;

 

[DaisySkies]

Just hopping into the conversation as the OP of this thread

It’s more than just documentation. This order makes anyone outside of the binary fear for their safety on a day to day basis. It subjects them to further harassment, more than they already experience in their day to day lives. And documentation is a part of the person. Just imagine if your ID had to say male on it despite you being female… how would you feel? And then if everyone assumed you were male in your day to day? Can I assume you would make you at least a little bit uncomfortable? This is how gender diverse people feel EVERY DAY, but amplified due to the hate crimes they experience. Their one security blanket has been stripped from them.

I mean, honestly, I wouldn't mind it bc I know i'm not and my friends and family also know. I don't see how a piece of plastic could define myself. :/

 

[Magician]

I mean, it's a lot simpler on official documentation to only have two, no? on everything else, you can identify however you want ;-;

Why is it simpler? It's just one option more and it worked fine the past two years
And no, you sadly can't identify however you want on everything else

So, what legitimate reason is there to take away the gender neutral option?

 

[athenaaa]

I mean, honestly, I wouldn't mind it bc I know i'm not and my friends and family also know. I don't see how a piece of plastic could define myself. :/

But for many people it does. That ID could be one piece of confirmation that they are who they say they are when they don’t have people who support them. And even if they do have people who support them, that piece of plastic says they are valid. Some people are changing their ID’s back to the sex they were born as, rather than the gender they identify as. There is a difference between gender and sex, which is why I make this distinction

 

[DaisySkies]

Why is it simpler? It's just one option more and it worked fine the past two years
And no, you sadly can't identify however you want on everything else

So, what legitimate reason is there to take away the gender neutral option?

idk, Ig it just comes down to morals
my genuine question is why does it exist? it's genuinely confusing for me....there's two reproductive systems/organs but three genders
I'm completely uneducated in this apparently so any constructive criticism you have, please tell me. I'm willing to learn.

 

[DaisySkies]

But for many people it does. That ID could be one piece of confirmation that they are who they say they are when they don’t have people who support them. And even if they do have people who support them, that piece of plastic says they are valid. Some people are changing their ID’s back to the sex they were born as, rather than the gender they identify as. There is a difference between gender and sex, which is why I make this distinction

it's just confusing for me.
I know that every autistic person is different, but for cases of autism such as me, I tend to go by what a person looks like in the face to know how to address them the first time I meet them. There will be some people who don't mind it, some who also don't mind it but will kindly correct you and/or ask you if you could try to remember the next time, and then there's the people who flat out call you transphobic for misgendering them when you don't even know them. it's straight up confusing and for my mind, it's easier to just stick with what I know as it keeps me from getting overwhelmed with everything I have to remember about people.

 

[athenaaa]

it's just confusing for me.
I know that every autistic person is different, but for cases of autism such as me, I tend to go by what a person looks like in the face to know how to address them the first time I meet them. There will be some people who don't mind it, some who also don't mind it but will kindly correct you and/or ask you if you could try to remember the next time, and then there's the people who flat out call you transphobic for misgendering them when you don't even know them. it's straight up confusing and for my mind, it's easier to just stick with what I know as it keeps me from getting overwhelmed with everything I have to remember about people.

If you’re ever confused about someone’s pronouns, just ask them. They know themselves best

 

[DaisySkies]

If you’re ever confused about someone’s pronouns, just ask them. They know themselves best

yea but then there's also the risk of them getting offended that I didn't know ;-;
what am I supposed to do then?

 

[athenaaa]

yea but then there's also the risk of them getting offended that I didn't know ;-;
what am I supposed to do then?

It’s how you word it. Don’t be like “I don’t know what to call you”, instead say something like “which pronouns may I use to make you feel comfortable”. Many people initially get upset as a defensive mechanism. If someone has been constantly attacked by others, they put up walls.

 

[DaisySkies]

It’s how you word it. Don’t be like “I don’t know what to call you”, instead say something like “which pronouns may I use to make you feel comfortable”. Many people initially get upset as a defensive mechanism. If someone has been constantly attacked by others, they put up walls.

okay
another thing
I don't get offended when people refer to me as they/them but other people get offended when we don't use their pronouns when they don't use mine as well? even more confused now :/

 

[Nina]

Unfortunately, it wont be 4 years. The next president (hopefully someone with a brain) will be cleaning up after him.
During Biden's term, it was Trump's Senate that reversed important bills that protected people like Roe v Wade and Chevron.
We saw a lot of state proposals put out during the elections to try to protect peoples right but it's only state by state and doesnt protect everyone.

 

[MK3AM]

a lil addition idk who approved it but it says you're the gender when you're in the womb the XY chromosomes don't develop until later on so technically were all females

 

[PWSwan]

Cheers to his early retirement. Hopefully this time impeachment will stick.

Unfortunately, that'll be a complete non-starter, as it requires that the articles pass the House (which has a Republican majority that kowtows to Trump) and then pass the senate with a 67% majority.

 

[badcrookshanks]

those egg prices lowered yet?

all that is happening in the us rn is disgusting.

cant stress enough how important organising, voting and making your voice heard is. please do that while you still have the rights to it.

 

[DaisySkies]

those egg prices lowered yet?

unfortunately, no
they're 5 bucks for 12 and some stores have them for 9 bucks and even higher
I'm just glad my family's been raising chickens for the past decade